IDP puntland now own lands !!.
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IDPs? Or Nomads who lost their livestock?
IDP those came from outside PL.
Gibiin-Udug
Crowned Queen of Puntland. Supporter of PuntExit
I donβt like this...
Can someone explain? @Tucking_Fypo
There lots of hardworking RX in garowe , some work hard enough and own land. Let people be. They arent causing harm and are contributing to the economy of PL.
PL is to nice to these invaders. They own the land now? did I hear that correctly!!!! no they don't own nothing, they are guests here and must return to rebuild they're own regions, dhulkooda yay sugaysa haday meeshani guryo loogu dhisayo? This will cause a population shift in the end. It happened in Bari with Ali Saleman @Reer-Bari qaxooti who kept getting his ass kicked by bah dirooble boy @Cognitivedissonance they kept giving them land like IDP and shit and now this c*nt is going around this forum saying how he is majority of bari and how his host bah dirooble is minority. This is what rahanwayn will be saying in 100 years, I can picture it now, it's all in the making.
Aragti gaabana reer puntland, wixi beri dhici doonto kama fekeran miyaa. It may look tiny and small presence now @Libaaxseendheer but that's how all infections and diseases start don't they? it starts small till they swallow your whole body. Nin aragti fog waa arka infectionka yar si aysan infection wayn beri noqon. Ali Saleemaan today is an infection that is uncontrollable as they have grown in size and have spread out, all due to this bah dirooble nut case @Cognitivedissonance
They even offered bah dubays my clan a land in 'xaji khayr' at the border of nugaal/karkaar for strategic reasons since we are heavily intermixed with issa mahmoud as a clan and can be used as bargaining chip for bah dirooble against issa mahmoud. They do things for they're own survival bah dirooble but the idea of giving land is wrong, even if it is for my clan, I will reject the donation. I don't need to beg for land. We rejected they're donation we are not ali saleemaan, we are happy with our land in birta dheer and 'outskirts' of Garowe.
Issa Mahmoud try to use us also as a bargaining chip inside Osman Mahmoud and Osman mahmoud who border near the issa mahmoud near xaji kheyr wanted to give us land there and act as buffer zone for them since we are closely intermingled with issa mahmoud, meaning any issa mahmoud assault on osman mahmoud would need issa mahmoud to kill bah dubays at the border who are heavily intermixed with them which they won't do.
We are infact very well respected among Issa mahmoud, reer nugaaleed baan nahay anagu, look at the reer garowe conferences like the one recently they had, I saw my ina adeer oo 4 oday isku imaana inside bah dubays.
His awoowe and my 3rd awoowe came from the same man named 'cigaal' who had 3 sons one of which was his 3rd awoowe and my 3rd awoowe Ali. He was sitting in the conference recently about garowe land disputes where farole was talking.
When I Abtirsi from my name to my father, to his father, then his father. Wallahi the 4th level father ayaan isku imaana. His 3rd awoowe and my 3rd awoowe were literally 'brothers' so they're kids are ilmo adeero kowad, first cousins. Basically my awoowe and his awowe were literally first cousins. Him and my father are second cousins. His kids and me will be 3rd cousins.
We are proud bah dubays, we are not among bah yacqoub isku mag-dhow manahin we are financially independent why would I need bah yacqoub according to cognissive?, isku caaqil manahin, isku odayaal ma gabno, isku nabadoon ma gabno, isku gobol ma degno, why igu jiidaysa mar walbo bah yacqoub please stop this guy @Cognitivedissonance only reer bah dir queen @Gibiin-Udug must stop him and realize bah yacqoub and bah dubays way kala tageen oo 2 jifi kala noqdeen.
Aragti gaabana reer puntland, wixi beri dhici doonto kama fekeran miyaa. It may look tiny and small presence now @Libaaxseendheer but that's how all infections and diseases start don't they? it starts small till they swallow your whole body. Nin aragti fog waa arka infectionka yar si aysan infection wayn beri noqon. Ali Saleemaan today is an infection that is uncontrollable as they have grown in size and have spread out, all due to this bah dirooble nut case @Cognitivedissonance
They even offered bah dubays my clan a land in 'xaji khayr' at the border of nugaal/karkaar for strategic reasons since we are heavily intermixed with issa mahmoud as a clan and can be used as bargaining chip for bah dirooble against issa mahmoud. They do things for they're own survival bah dirooble but the idea of giving land is wrong, even if it is for my clan, I will reject the donation. I don't need to beg for land. We rejected they're donation we are not ali saleemaan, we are happy with our land in birta dheer and 'outskirts' of Garowe.
Issa Mahmoud try to use us also as a bargaining chip inside Osman Mahmoud and Osman mahmoud who border near the issa mahmoud near xaji kheyr wanted to give us land there and act as buffer zone for them since we are closely intermingled with issa mahmoud, meaning any issa mahmoud assault on osman mahmoud would need issa mahmoud to kill bah dubays at the border who are heavily intermixed with them which they won't do.
We are infact very well respected among Issa mahmoud, reer nugaaleed baan nahay anagu, look at the reer garowe conferences like the one recently they had, I saw my ina adeer oo 4 oday isku imaana inside bah dubays.
His awoowe and my 3rd awoowe came from the same man named 'cigaal' who had 3 sons one of which was his 3rd awoowe and my 3rd awoowe Ali. He was sitting in the conference recently about garowe land disputes where farole was talking.
When I Abtirsi from my name to my father, to his father, then his father. Wallahi the 4th level father ayaan isku imaana. His 3rd awoowe and my 3rd awoowe were literally 'brothers' so they're kids are ilmo adeero kowad, first cousins. Basically my awoowe and his awowe were literally first cousins. Him and my father are second cousins. His kids and me will be 3rd cousins.
We are proud bah dubays, we are not among bah yacqoub isku mag-dhow manahin we are financially independent why would I need bah yacqoub according to cognissive?, isku caaqil manahin, isku odayaal ma gabno, isku nabadoon ma gabno, isku gobol ma degno, why igu jiidaysa mar walbo bah yacqoub please stop this guy @Cognitivedissonance only reer bah dir queen @Gibiin-Udug must stop him and realize bah yacqoub and bah dubays way kala tageen oo 2 jifi kala noqdeen.
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Bah Dubays is two lineages only hassan and sicid yusuf. They formed an alliance due to sharing the same mother, a woman from dubays clan in warsangeli. This makes sense, why not. Why would I chose @Cognitivedissonance or @Gibiin-Udug when I as a hassan yusuf see Sicid yusuf oo isku hoyo nahay? mish macqul ma aha. Don't chase the unchaseable.
It's all about who is closer to me in clan, it's about blood, way iga fog yihin osman mahmoudka kale in comparison to Sicid Yusuf. So me as a son in the chain of Hassan Yusuf, I support the bah alliance of Hassan yusuf and Sicid Yusuf and it has worked and kept us alive for nearly 150 years. Yes we are relatively a new off-shoot clan from some other clan which may indeed be bah yacqoub, I haven't researched it but I will find out hadan 'odayaal' isku imaano bah yacqoub mise 'hoyo kale' ayaa noo dhaxayo. I will investigate our relationship.
There is only like 7 males from me to Hassan Yusuf Lineage. No joke. My father is 1st level, his father is 2nd level awoowe, his father is 3rd level awoowe Ali. I actually met my awoowe when I was born but I don't remember him, I hear stories about him from my father tho.
It's all about who is closer to me in clan, it's about blood, way iga fog yihin osman mahmoudka kale in comparison to Sicid Yusuf. So me as a son in the chain of Hassan Yusuf, I support the bah alliance of Hassan yusuf and Sicid Yusuf and it has worked and kept us alive for nearly 150 years. Yes we are relatively a new off-shoot clan from some other clan which may indeed be bah yacqoub, I haven't researched it but I will find out hadan 'odayaal' isku imaano bah yacqoub mise 'hoyo kale' ayaa noo dhaxayo. I will investigate our relationship.
There is only like 7 males from me to Hassan Yusuf Lineage. No joke. My father is 1st level, his father is 2nd level awoowe, his father is 3rd level awoowe Ali. I actually met my awoowe when I was born but I don't remember him, I hear stories about him from my father tho.
Relax , the capital of the most advanced state in somalia will have alot of shisheeye.
By the way Cali Salebaan are MJ and all this time they were living in their own land. No one in the history done something to us. What I know is we were giving help to you all the time . If money us, if mudug war calling us, if election asking pmpf. So be wise Dr when you mention CS the older brother of Mahmoud salebaan.
We are the economic back bone of Puntland, Dr Oz is jealous.
@kickz your Majertenimo has been put to doubt by @PuntiteQueen who is a mighty Puntlander. Same goes for @Libaaxseendheer these accusations need immediate answering not deflecting.
I don't mind the good Ali Salemaan like @Arma do you ever hear me abuse him? lakin kuwooda saqajanta ah wala karbashaya oo mangaabyo ah like GALAN and @Reer-Bari. Beeldajaha Ali Saleman waa gob weeye, his clan family are the history of Ali Saleman, there is no disrespect from me to the historical ruling class. Iska gabta mangaabyada sida reer bari iyo galan, they are giving ali saleemaan are bad name as a whole is what I am saying.
You think I will allow 'Maryaan Duul' who owns City View Hotel in Garowe to go around and abuse other clans in PL, no-way. Maryan Duul is 'sicid yusuf' in bah dubays, ma aha 'soo jireenka' bah dubays, anaga hassan yusuf ayaa ah soo jireenka, the ruling class. The lineage that ensured 'sicid yusuf' can prosper today is because of the hard work of 'hassan yusuf' lineage men which I am apart of.
I will never allow our non-historical clans to go around and abuse historical ruling clans waan gaban laha, dad isgabto baynu nahay bah dubays. @Cognitivedissonance has said numerous occasions Ali Saleemaan ma aha dad is gabto, what u think he means by that? you learn your other lineages go wild and shit and your ruling clan and historical class the reer beeldaje just sit there watching it.
Do you need ppl to remind you who fled Bari constantly? it was Ali Saleman sxb, you kept fleeing to Arabia or Kismaayo, maxaa taas ka keenay inaad mar walbo qaxooti ahaato, ma aha inu qof ku sheego, you should know this and behave yourself around bah dirooble. Just cause he reinvited you back and gave u land like we give land to IDP, don't take kindness for weakness boowe. The problem isn't Ali Saleman, the problem is you have lineages in Ali Saleman who are not the historical ruling family and they go around with no information on history, culture, knowledge and make a fuckin fool of themselves in front of ragga wa-wayn
I don't mind the good Ali Salemaan like @Arma do you ever hear me abuse him? lakin kuwooda saqajanta ah wala karbashaya oo mangaabyo ah like GALAN and @Reer-Bari. Beeldajaha Ali Saleman waa gob weeye, his clan family are the history of Ali Saleman, there is no disrespect from me to the historical ruling class. Iska gabta mangaabyada sida reer bari iyo galan, they are giving ali saleemaan are bad name as a whole is what I am saying.
You think I will allow 'Maryaan Duul' who owns City View Hotel in Garowe to go around and abuse other clans in PL, no-way. Maryan Duul is 'sicid yusuf' in bah dubays, ma aha 'soo jireenka' bah dubays, anaga hassan yusuf ayaa ah soo jireenka, the ruling class. The lineage that ensured 'sicid yusuf' can prosper today is because of the hard work of 'hassan yusuf' lineage men which I am apart of.
I will never allow our non-historical clans to go around and abuse historical ruling clans waan gaban laha, dad isgabto baynu nahay bah dubays. @Cognitivedissonance has said numerous occasions Ali Saleemaan ma aha dad is gabto, what u think he means by that? you learn your other lineages go wild and shit and your ruling clan and historical class the reer beeldaje just sit there watching it.
Do you need ppl to remind you who fled Bari constantly? it was Ali Saleman sxb, you kept fleeing to Arabia or Kismaayo, maxaa taas ka keenay inaad mar walbo qaxooti ahaato, ma aha inu qof ku sheego, you should know this and behave yourself around bah dirooble. Just cause he reinvited you back and gave u land like we give land to IDP, don't take kindness for weakness boowe. The problem isn't Ali Saleman, the problem is you have lineages in Ali Saleman who are not the historical ruling family and they go around with no information on history, culture, knowledge and make a fuckin fool of themselves in front of ragga wa-wayn
He gone crazy the DR is unhinged lately.
Let the foks on this forum say what they want to say.
If we properly look at the majeerteen clans and list the contributions made per clan. Cali salebaan would have been high on the list. As long as cali salebaan is one of the elite i don't care what childeren on this forum got's to say.
Doctor you need to hush. Everywhere cali salebaan go, they become successful bussines owners. Yeah cali salebaan fled bari and now the sub clan has connections from Arabia all the way in to the interior of Africa. And the part about ragga wa wayn, stop embarrassing yourself. Cocknigtive and you are the ones constantly bringing CS up. Stay in your lane. You come from a nomadic family don't hide behind the CM name.
Atleast CS don't do this they stick to their sub sub sub clan and not hiding behind the CS name. If someone is a faqash and poor it is you. CM might be a powerfull sub clan however that doesn't apply to all CM clansmen. Meanwhile some of the CS on this forum come from wealthy families and not only nomads roaming the Semi dessert.
Point of the story: stick to your own sub sub sub clan and leave the others alone before I karbaash you in essay style.
The nigga oo magan nugaal ku joogo, calling cali saleebaan an infection
You must be a shegato for causing saleebaan disunity
Maybe I understand his anger on us. Because we are elite soldiers we still didn't finish off the terrorist. Mountain fights it's new to us. Soon we will finish them off.
There is majerten weakness, you just said it. The enemy will continue to do this to you in the foreseeable future, as they won't face you in 'open conventional' war-style outside the city gates since we have 'experience' in this war-style dating back to the time of Harti in the 15th century to as recent as 19th Century with the 'Sayid' and Darwish, and not to mention all the wars in between those time periods with warsangeli, ali saleban, osman mahmoud, etc.
That's how USC defeated us Mogadishu, they used urban warfare, they knew u lack knowledge in it and would run, which turned out to be true. Infact they still use it against you notice Galkacyo, sacad start the war inside the city and seek reinforcement from outside the city gate, they don't want the battle go into open space, they want inside 'xafadaha' galkacyo. Once it goes into the open, they are obviously aware they will not win due to lack of history in open warfare. They do this in Mogadishu also, I saw it clearly in 99, it's all about keeping the war inside the town and they kept the edge on Somalis for nearly 1991-2004 using this tactic. I am not sure why we didn't prepare for it and master it, while sitting there begging them like abdiqasim salat tried and found out the RUDE way he wasn't welcomed.
Bari was a blood-fest in history, they do have lot's of history to look back on and talk about in comparison to other clans in Somalia. Even in Mudug/Sool/Nugaal/Erigavo, we didn't see much wars before 'sayidka' in the 19th century, we are like one community in terms of our experience with wars.
But Bari were in wars way before us, I would say as early as the 17th Century. 200 sano bay naga hormareen arimaha dagaalka reer barigu. Which is interesting also since it's the only region in PL to civilize first also Bari/Sanaag into Sultanates, not Nugaal/Mudug/Sool/Erigavo who were still in warfare 'era' since it must of been new to them back then and they saw it as a clear way of getting advantage on the enemy. But well into the 20th century, Nugaal/North Mudug/Sool/Erigavo all civilized. Way before the forming of independence, way sooo arkeen dagaalku is just never-ending and they must of learned dagaal waxaa laga gaadha 'yool' ma aha inaad malin walbo isku riddan, they're needs to real OUTCOME be it tribally or land wise.
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