How a brazen religious committee took over the Burao city government

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It’s a very rare in a male dominated and poverty stricken Somaliland for women to move head and run a business. But, a young woman worked hard and saved enough money to get a license to open for a 1,000 Sqft Warsan Ethiopian restaurant, in the dusty town of Burao. She even hired two female employees. However, last week, her dreams of serving the residents of Burao hit a wall after a local police SWAT team raided her business and shut down the restaurant, for failing to separate sexes. The police arrested her and the two of her employees, but they were all released later.

The local police were taking orders from a so-called Somaliland committee for the promotion of virtues and the prevention of vice (SCPVPV), which orchestrated the raid. This is un-elected religious zealots have kept a tight grip on the local government of Burao. The elected mayor, the police, the district attorney, and even courts are doing their bidding.

These religious vigilantes do mainly focus on harassing young women, people they do not like or who disagree with them or anyone they have a grudge against.

They do not talk or address the most pressing issues Somaliland people are facing: The rampant corruption of the business, faith and political leaders, the effect of chat and tobacco consumption on society, the problems of clan identity in our politics, and the allege sexual abuses and harassment or even rapes in the Madrasas or other school systems.

Enjoining what is good and forbidding what is evil is not only the most important Islamic duties, but it also one the basic tenets of Islam.

In fact, in the Koran, Allah states, “Let there arise from you a group of people inviting to all that is good [Islam], enjoining Al-Ma’ruuf (all that slam 0rders), and forbidding Al-Munkar (all that Islam has forbidden). And is they who are the successful.” [ Al-Imran, 3:104]

I am not questioning their motives, but what is the troubling to me is the manner the members of the committee of promotion of virtues and prevention of vice conduct themselves on their mission of spreading the good and warnings against the evil things.

Instead of calling people with wisdom and fair preaching, as Prophet Mohammed (SWT), used to do, they’re using a brute police force—which reminds many people the Faqash era repressive tactics. We just liberated the country from a vile dictatorship. Most people still remember midnight raids of the para-military police force and the abuses of the savage “Guul-wadayaal.”

Also, with the aiding and abetting of the local government, they banned from local hotels, restaurants and shopping places, events where gender were not separated. They also banned music and even Somaliland national anthem from all venues.

For instance, on October, 2013, the popular Somaliland band, The Horn Stars, planned to stage a concert with all ticket sold out at local hotel in Burao. Unfortunately, the event turned into mayhem: A group of paid thugs from religious committee smashed most of the vehicles at the parking lot of the hotel, and 9 people were injured. The police never interfered or arrested anyone regarding the injuries people suffered or the destruction of the properties.

Who is to make decision or laws about behaviors that is acceptable or forbidden ‘Haram’ under sharia-law: Our legislature or a brazen remnants of the Islamic Courts group?

In Somaliland, do we have on the books laws or statues requiring gender separation in all public places, including restaurants, shopping or work places?

For the sake of this argument, if we have laws requiring gender separation, then the young lady is violated our laws. Consequently, she must comply the law if she wants to continue to operate her restaurant. Period.

However, as far as I know, there are no laws in Somaliland, requiring gender separation in public places or banning playing music at weddings ceremonies—the most important event in a human event other than a birth of child or other social gatherings.

In Burao—what we got is a complete breakdown of the chain of the command of the police. The Burao police have been compromised like the way organized crime syndicates infiltrate local police force.

It is prudent for the Interior Minister, Col. Kahin, who hails from East Burao, and the commander of the Somaliland police force, to do a complete thorough investigation how a fanatic religious committee took over the whole Burao city government and the police unit.

There must be accountability; we can’t compromise national security matters. If the Interior Ministry fails to shut down this brazen militant group—many people would assume that they’re a state- sanctioned organization.

There are reports that it receives funding and guidance from the Ministry of Religious affairs. More troubling, there are also credible allegations that it got funding from foreign entities as well as businesses, which used to finance remnants of the Islamic Courts and al-Shabaab.

The Agenda of the emboldened religious militant group is bigger than taking over the Burao city government. They have branches all over Somaliland towns and villages. They do not believe our constitution; they hate our system of government, our flag and our country. They’re very determined to bring down Somaliland and takeover our government under the guise of protecting Islam or clan identity.

The thuggish religious committee is not only abuses women, but it also the reason why many from Burao area in the diasporas have decided not to settle or open business in their home city.

However, I am praying for them to change their behavior and conduct because our faith is a religion of mercy, and Allah is the most merciful. But we must not be complacent against those who are trying to harm Somaliland. We must stop them before their narrow Wahabi interpretation of Islam poison the rest of the country. We must also be vigilant and protect our freedom because Somaliland is under siege.
 
They think bullying women and implementing Arab CULTURE of extreme gender segregation is Islam.

These new-age wadaads are obsessed with what women should do to please and obey men.

They probably have 4 young wives each whilst conveniently forgetting how the prophet Muhammed SAW practised polygamy. He did not go fishing for young virgins like these men.

Think about it, the less women study and work, the more they will need to join a 4 wife harem of an old "wadaad".

These "wadaads" are the reason there is an epidemic of khat abuse and men refusing to provide for their families.
 

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Reminds me of the Haram police in Saudi Arabia that calls itself the Hay'ah. I don't condone it, but you have to remember that it's hard to draw a line. If they don't stop gender seperation, they won't stop PDA and nudity etc.
 
Reminds me of the Haram police in Saudi Arabia that calls itself the Hay'ah. I don't condone it, but you have to remember that it's hard to draw a line. If they don't stop gender seperation, they won't stop PDA and nudity etc.


In the advent of Islam, men and women carried out similar roles whilst maintaining respect.

As Islam commands, If men lower their gaze and both genders dress and speak modestly, there should be no issue.

First it is restaurants, next it's shops and malls and finally, women are not allowed outside without a male babysitter.

This is insanity and as what happens in these societies, homosexuality and other perversions follow soon after
 

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In the advent of Islam, men and women carried out similar roles whilst maintaining respect.

If men lower their gaze and both genders dress and speak modestly, there should be no issue.

First it is restaurants, next it's shops and malls and finally, women are not allowed outside without a male babysitter.

Gender seperation is silly and an extreme evasion of privacy, what if i'm sat at the restaurant with my sisters and mother? I shouldn't have to justify who they are if these terrorists calling themselves the SCVPV burst in.
 
In the advent of Islam, men and women carried out similar roles whilst maintaining respect.

As Islam commands, If men lower their gaze and both genders dress and speak modestly, there should be no issue.

First it is restaurants, next it's shops and malls and finally, women are not allowed outside without a male babysitter.

This is insanity and as what happens in these societies, homosexuality and other perversions follow soon after

Men and women had seperate roles in Islam, or could you please explain this statement sister ?
 
Men and women had seperate roles in Islam, or could you please explain this statement sister ?


abdirahman, secretly, , i am a little proud, they could implement it better though, looks like the 1door race has discovered Islam after almost 100 years since the great Sayid saved them from full on Christianisation by the British :siilaanyolaugh:

but on a serious note, i think man and females should be kept apart, lakiin, it should be logical, no one comes to work to do xaraam, people normally got to work to earn a,living :ayaanswag:, if they created a bashaal place and mixed i would understand,
 
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abdirahman, secretly, , i am a little proud, they could implement it better though, looks like the 1door race has discovered Islam after almost 100 years since the great Sayid saved them from full on Christianisation by the British :siilaanyolaugh:

but on a serious note, i think man and females should be kept apart, lakiin, it should be logical, no one comes to work to do xaraam, people normally got to work to earn a,living :ayaanswag:, if they created a bahsaal place and mixed i would understand,

Saaxib on a serious note, burco is not extremist as they wanna present it here, maybe there are SOME extreme influences, but that's it. Many people are just angry that our blessed city doesn't allow naked diaspora women to perform their shows there.

I give credits to Ahmed Madoobe. Many people say he banned drugs and all type of immorality in Kismaayo. I respect him for that btw.
 
Men and women had seperate roles in Islam, or could you please explain this statement sister ?


I mean in the public sphere walaale,

Business: Khadijah

Islamic Scholar who taught men also: Aisha

Countless women who took part in the battle when it was necessary.

These new-age wadaads would like to shackle women in their homes to serve their male overlords forgetting that since Allah created Adam and Eve, men and women need each other, whether it's in public or private.
 

AarHawd_7

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Burco has always been a salafi city, and thats good. We reer Burco support it, we don’t wanna end up like reer Hargeisa and their anshax xumo. Burco is the Islamic capital of the Somali peninsula.
 
I mean in the public sphere walaale,

Business: Khadijah

Islamic Scholar who taught men also: Aisha

Countless women who took part in the battle when it was necessary.

These new-age wadaads would like to shackle women in their homes to serve their male overlords forgetting that since Allah created Adam and Eve, men and women need each other, whether it's in public or private.

Thanks for the explanations sister.

Yes i agree we need women in public for example female doctors or teachers, but there should be rules in accordance to the sharia about the way men and women mix in the public. Gender Segregation to a certain degree is Sunna. For example there is no problem if in a halal event (uni lecture, restaurant and ect.) men and women are in the same place, but it becomes problematic when there is a party with a diaspora singer and both genders attend. This is definitely prohibited. Extremism works in both directions tbh.
 
Burco has always been a salafi city, and thats good. We reer Burco support it, we don’t wanna end up like reer Hargeisa and their anshax xumo. Burco is the Islamic capital of the Somali peninsula.
Haye didnt know you are Somalilander je bent bij nader inzien wel welkom in Nederland
 
Gender seperation is silly and an extreme evasion of privacy, what if i'm sat at the restaurant with my sisters and mother? I shouldn't have to justify who they are if these terrorists calling themselves the SCVPV burst in.


thats fine, if its mum and sister but its xaraam to frocking around with a non muhram female, touching, sitting talking about marriage is fine in public but sometimes two so called friends, male and female is a bad idea, it will lead to xaraam, the sexes should be separated, other wise the fitna will begin,
 

Crow

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Restaurants should have three sections:
  • Women's section
  • Men's section
  • Family section
If people want to take their girlfriend or boyfriend to the family section then that's their business. As far as everyone else is concerned, they are family.
 
Dumb religious types going for the low hanging fruit, as usual. Won't go after all the corrupt local officials stealing public resources or all the rapist madrassah teachers but will crush the business and dreams of a female running a tiny restaraunt. These leeches are so fucking useless
 
Dumb religious types going for the low hanging fruit, as usual. Won't go after all the corrupt local officials stealing public resources or all the rapist madrassah teachers but will crush the business and dreams of a female running a tiny restaraunt. These leeches are so fucking useless



Thank you.
No action taken against Madhibaan/Gabooye abuse
No comments on expired food being sold.
No action taken against drug abuse: Khat
No action taken against corrupt officials

Their energy is reserved for policing the physically weaker gender: women.
 
Reminds me of the Haram police in Saudi Arabia that calls itself the Hay'ah. I don't condone it, but you have to remember that it's hard to draw a line. If they don't stop gender seperation, they won't stop PDA and nudity etc.

They aren't around in makkah and madina no more in terms of influence, you should see the way some people are dressed now in umrah and hajj compared to before.

Beginning of the century, it was impossible for your hands to be shown if you were a women.
 
They aren't around in makkah and madina no more in terms of influence, you should see the way some people are dressed now in umrah and hajj compared to before.

Beginning of the century, it was impossible for your hands to be shown if you were a women.


Isn't it forbidden to cover your face during pilgrimage?
 

Cigaal

يا نبي سلام عليك
Isn't it forbidden to cover your face during pilgrimage?
Yep

“When in the state of ihrām, it is unlawful for a man to cover his head and for a woman to cover her face, to pare nails, to remove hair, to oil the hair on one’s head or beard, and to scent all of the body.”

Source: Al-Risālah al-Jami’ah wa al-tadhkirah al-Nāfi’ah
 

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