What to do when father refuses a guy because of his qabiil

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why would a women qabil matter? I'm not understanding, technically women don't have qabils as they inherit the husbands qabil:gucciwhat: and the kids would have the husbands qabil, it literally dosent go both ways
women other than MJ tend to be loyal to their children’s qabiil but they still maintain their qabiil. Usually Somali parents aren’t too strict when it comes to their sons partners. My mother wanted me to marry her best friends daughter who’s marexan but it’d be a different story if it was my sister.
 
Somalis and their qabilism is so backward. People who share the same religion, same ethnicity, same cultural values.

I can understand people teasing each other because of different regions, accents, etc. Americans do it, British, Spainish, etc. Somalis though take it to another level.

Deep down I look down on these losers.

People who have nothing in life, cling to qabil.
 
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It clearly happens both ways. My parents took issue with my brother’s ex.

Yh, but that’s not uncommon around here.
It’s usually uncommon for Somali parents to discriminate their sons partner unless they belong to a laangaab clan.
So both of your brothers married non-muslim ajanabi women ?
 

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Are you an only child? Do you have many brothers?

You should listen to your Father gabaryahay, he is protective for a reason. He sounds like a proud HAG individual. You will be called Inanta Wanlawayn if you visit the in-laws in Hargeisa. Reer Waqooyi ppl are usually xenophobic, gabdhahoodu qabiilo badan waa u diidaan so touché in my opinion.

That being said, my Father AUN was cool with all qabiils that came for my sisters except Cadcadka. He famously said "I will not let my daughters suffer Hawiye guilt at the hands of a Laangaab".
 
Are you an only child? Do you have many brothers?

You should listen to your Father gabaryahay, he is protective for a reason. He sounds like a proud HAG individual. You will be called Inanta Wanlawayn if you visit the in-laws in Hargeisa. Reer Waqooyi ppl are usually xenophobic, gabdhahoodu qabiilo badan waa u diidaan so touché in my opinion.

That being said, my Father AUN was cool with all qabiils that came for my sisters except Cadcadka. He famously said "I will not let my daughters suffer Hawiye guilt at the hands of a Laangaab".

Come off it. We will never progress if we have that mentality. I see where you are coming from though. My mum is Hawiye and I am isaaq, and some members from my dads side were absolutely qabilist towards my mum.

Somali dads need to be more concerned about their daughters marrying decent Somali men rather than qabil. They only have themselves to blame when their kids want to then marry non Somalis.

We are in the west and we don't live in our villages backhome or area in which everyone is most likely the same tribe as us or tribes considered acceptable to marry into. Its hard to find someone who is of the exact same tribe us as who we are also attracted to and have a lot in common with as we so scattered.
 

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Did you guys have any experience with this? I want to get married but my dad straight up refused because of his qabiil, he doesn't even want to talk to him. Guy tried to call my dad but he blocked him

I'm so frustrated and angry what should I do?


Well. Islamically, if the "Chaste qabil" guy is a Muslim, practicing and decent, u can over ride what your dad wants. Good luck.
 
Never choose a man over your father.

I would advice you to wait and get other family members to speak to him.
Mums are softer. Try to convince her and in turn she will probs try and speak to your aabo.

I think your dad will probably come round if you are consistant. At the end of the day a lot of Somali dads are not that staunch, especially if the man is at least Somali. After a while they give up.
 

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My mum is Hawiye and I am isaaq, and some members from my dads side were absolutely qabilist towards my mum.

That's all i needed to read, thank you very much.

Maxay islaanta u caynayaan? Ma diyaaradii Hargeisa garaacaysay bay waday?

No proud Father should give his daughter to a family of hillbillies. In the South no Isaaq is treated that way, at best we might laugh at your accent but there is no ill treatment, especially towards a woman.

I would understand if your Father is Hawiye and your reer abtiyaal said a few words, it's natural to be wary of a man and his ppl who marries your womenfolk.
 
That's all i needed to read, thank you very much.

Maxay islaanta u caynayaan? Ma diyaaradii Hargeisa garaacaysay bay waday?

No proud Father should give his daughter to a family of hillbillies. In the South no Isaaq is treated that way, at best we might laugh at your accent but there is no ill treatment, especially towards a woman.

I would understand if your Father is Hawiye and your reer abtiyaal said a few words, it's natural to be wary of a man and his ppl who marries your womenfolk.

Looooooool

Only some. My grandparents are fine and my mum is a woman that can hold her own and my dad isn't the type to put up with it alhamdulliah.
Now they are completely normal. Also, not all Isaaqs are qabilist. Don't think it is fair to write all of us off.

Yes, I agree Hawiyees are a lot less qabilist, i see it with my mums side of the family which is why I am suprised the OPs father is Hawiyee and not Isaaq. Yh, a lot of Hawiye dads would prefer their daughter marry a Hawiye, but if a man from another prominent qabil proposed and the daughter wanted him then they usually wouldn't say no. We are all Somali at the end of the day.

Also, I know a lot of isaaq families with Hawiye son in laws. Qabilism when it comes to marriages is fast becoming a thing of the past. I already have two female isaaq cousins with Hawiye husbands and no one kicked up a fuss. Apart from dumb comments here and there.

We are progressing.
 
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Did you guys have any experience with this? I want to get married but my dad straight up refused because of his qabiil, he doesn't even want to talk to him. Guy tried to call my dad but he blocked him

I'm so frustrated and angry what should I do?
Did you guys have any experience with this? I want to get married but my dad straight up refused because of his qabiil, he doesn't even want to talk to him. Guy tried to call my dad but he blocked him

I'm so frustrated and angry what should I do?

Bless your heart you’re so native:ileycry:
 

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From your dads point of view, a woman in our culture when she marries into that qabiil, the children follow that qabiil, and so your dad feels intimidated by that. I think it’s wrong of your dad to refuse a Somali guy based on qabiil. I think you should actually call him out and get your mum on your side
 

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It’s usually uncommon for Somali parents to discriminate their sons partner unless they belong to a laangaab clan.
So both of your brothers married non-muslim ajanabi women ?
When I said both, I meant both him and his Somali ex ended up with White partners. My other brother married Somali. They’re both happy, and both awesome SILs. By the looks of it, he might be the only one who does. I was turned onto Somali guys when I met my ex at a wedding out of state. We started dating seriously, and my parents questioned who he was. Now that I’m not as naive, they were definitely fishing for his tribe, but he turned out to be the right tribe for them bc it was a wedding that had a lot of isaaq attending, and he also turned out to be all the other right things for me so it didn’t matter.

After reading this thread, I’m getting ideas though. I’m thinking big. The one tribe that ate the bad meat? A Somali Bantu? I’d be willing to play an epic joke, but that might offend the other party, no?
 
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No, the other married Somali. They’re both happy, both awesome SILs. By the looks of it, he might be the only one who does. I was turned onto Somali guys when I met my ex at a wedding out of state. We started dating seriously, and my parents questioned who he was. Now that I’m not as naive, they were definitely fishing for his tribe, but he turned out to be the right tribe for them bc it was a wedding that had a lot of isaaq attending, and he also turned out to be all the other right things for me so it didn’t matter.

After reading this thread, I’m getting ideas though. I’m thinking big. The one tribe that ate the bad meat? A Somali Bantu? I’d be willing to play an epic joke, but that might offend the other party, no?

Yes it would be very offensive.:icon lol:

I remember someone said here that we would never let his daughter get married to a gabooye/tumal because they were blacksmith and he would never eat from the same plate. I didn't even know this word so I googled it. I thought it was something bad. I was shook.
 
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