Getting drunk

Walahi they're playing themselves. They ain't destroying nobody's lives but their own and bringing shame upon their entire families

As Somalis say though, "fartaadad dhexda ka qaniini"
they have little life expereince and very naive. Before you know they are in situations they cant handle. This happens when you are sheltered your whole life and suddenly thrown in the real world where there is a lot of bad people. I seen so many who are stuck in situations they cant get out of
 
Don't think ima "party" and play yourselves people

Love Island's Theo Campbell loses sight in eye after champagne cork accident

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Love Island star Theo Campbell says he has lost sight in his right eye after he was hit by a champagne cork.

Campbell, who appeared on the 2017 series of the ITV2 show, was on holiday in Ibiza when the accident happened.

He was taken to hospital and subsequently underwent surgery.

In an Instagram post, he wrote: "Two eye surgeries later after a really unfortunate accident, I've lost all vision in my right eye as it got split in half."

"Who would have thought a champagne cork would be the end of me? But I still have one eye left, looking at the bright side of things."



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-49483153
 
they have little life expereince and very naive. Before you know they are in situations they cant handle. This happens when you are sheltered your whole life and suddenly thrown in the real world where there is a lot of bad people. I seen so many who are stuck in situations they cant get out of

Its not even about having been sheltered. People out here acting like they aint got no sense. When we all know for a FACT their Somali parents told them wrong from right.

I actually studied this academically. They just looking for love, recognition and street "cred" in all the wrong people. People who just wanna use them. For sex. For money. For goods. Their secondary socialisation is all fucked up. They just out there looking for kindness and recognition they don't get at home. But it can be reversed.

If they had some dignity and comfort in their identity as Somalis - proud fucking SOMALI SCIONS and Queens - they wouldn't be out here acting like Jamaicans and African Americans. That's why its uber important Somali parents take their kids regularly to Somaliland/Somalia/Djibouti and teach them about Somali culture, DEEN, language and their families. To give them a sense of identity. So they don't take "street culture" or Jamaican culture. Being without DEEN, is to be lost forever.
 
Its not even about having been sheltered. People out here acting like they aint got no sense. When we all know for a FACT their Somali parents told them wrong from right.

I actually studied this academically. They just looking for love, recognition and street "cred" in all the wrong people. People who just wanna use them. For sex. For money. For goods. Their secondary socialisation is all fucked up. They just out there looking for kindness and recognition they don't get at home. But it can be reversed.

If they had some dignity and comfort in their identity as Somalis - proud fucking SOMALI SCIONS and Queens - they wouldn't be out here acting like Jamaicans and African Americans. That's why its uber important Somali parents take their kids regularly to Somaliland/Somalia/Djibouti and teach them about Somali culture, DEEN, language and their families. To give them a sense of identity. So they don't take "street culture" or Jamaican culture. Being without DEEN, is to be lost forever.

This is so true....great post
 
This is so true....great post

They need "resocialisation" therapy. Dhaqan celis is actually a really good form of resocialisation therapy.

Resocialization refers to the process of discarding former behavior patterns and reflexes, accepting new ones as part of a transition in one's life. This occurs throughout the human life cycle.[28]Resocialization can be an intense experience, with the individual experiencing a sharp break with his or her past, as well as a need to learn and be exposed to radically different norms and values. One common example involves resocialization through a total institution, or "a setting in which people are isolated from the rest of society and manipulated by an administrative staff". Resocialization via total institutions involves a two step process: 1) the staff work to root out a new inmate's individual identity & 2) the staff attempt to create for the inmate a new identity.[29] Other examples of this are the experience of a young man or woman leaving home to join the military, or a religious convert internalizing the beliefs and rituals of a new faith. There are two possible outcomes of resocialization: differences are resolved and the individual becomes a full member again (convergence), or the group expels the individual or the individual decides to leave (exit).

Somalis expel people too easily from the group, when they could resocialise them​
 
Excuse me for my IQ of 68, but whats the point of this thread? I swear to Ebbe I didnt understand a shit...
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OP wanted to brag about drinking. But we kinda turned it into a debate about alcoholism in the Somali community.

To take my point further. Somalis who start to drink alcohol don't start suddenly. They don't wake up one day and decide "im gonna start drinking today and start ruining the rest of my life".

It's a gradual, corrosive, destructive process. But it can be caught early. They are effectively socialised into it. Which means early intervention and prevention is entirely possible.

If we use the theory of group socialise, we can begin to assess how people start drinking alcohol

Stages of group socialisation (including alcoholic and junkie sub groups)
Individuals and groups change their evaluations and commitments to each other over time. There is a predictable sequence of stages that occur in order for an individual to transition through a group; investigation, socialization, maintenance, resocialization, and remembrance. During each stage, the individual and the group evaluate each other which leads to an increase or decrease in commitment to socialization. This socialization pushes the individual from prospective, new, full, marginal, and ex member.[40]

Stage 1: Investigation This stage is marked by a cautious search for information. The individual compares groups in order to determine which one will fulfill their needs (reconnaissance), while the group estimates the value of the potential member (recruitment). The end of this stage is marked by entry to the group, whereby the group asks the individual to join and they accept the offer. The Somali girl or boy seeks out a "friendship" group, gang, co-workers, neighbours, fellow students etc. who will eventually introduce her or him to alcoholism and drug addiction.

Stage 2: Socialization Now that the individual has moved from prospective member to new member, they must accept the group's culture. At this stage, the individual accepts the group's norms, values, and perspectives (assimilation), and the group adapts to fit the new member's needs (accommodation). The acceptance transition point is then reached and the individual becomes a full member. However, this transition can be delayed if the individual or the group reacts negatively. For example, the individual may react cautiously or misinterpret other members' reactions if they believe that they will be treated differently as a newcomer. The Somali girl or boy is encouraged to drink, or even ridiculed or made fun of for being "boring". By people who are destructive (xasads) and jealous of the young boy or girl's perceived purity. The boy or girl has low self esteem, low religious education, low cultural Somali knowledge, limited links to decent self-respective, religious Somalis. So they are vulnerable and susceptible to manipulation and join in with the group.

Stage 3: Maintenance During this stage, the individual and the group negotiate what contribution is expected of members (role negotiation). While many members remain in this stage until the end of their membership, some individuals are not satisfied with their role in the group or fail to meet the group's expectations (divergence). The Somali girl or boy gets into a habit and it becomes an addiction, or the Somali girl or boy they may decide they don't want to throw their life away and quit drinking & drugs.

Stage 4: Resocialization If the divergence point is reached, the former full member takes on the role of a marginal member and must be resocialized. There are two possible outcomes of resocialization: differences are resolved and the individual becomes a full member again (convergence), or the group expels the individual or the individual decides to leave (exit). The Somali girl or boy either quits and is resocialised into acceptable Islamic, Somali cultural norms and values. Or they try to quit, but are pulled back in by the group members.

Stage 5: Remembrance In this stage, former members reminisce about their memories of the group, and make sense of their recent departure. If the group reaches a consensus on their reasons for departure, conclusions about the overall experience of the group become part of the group's tradition.​
 
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OP wanted to brag about drinking. But we kinda turned it into a debate about alcoholism in the Somali community.

To take my point further. Somalis who start to drink alcohol don't start suddenly. They don't wake up one day and decide "im gonna start drinking today and start ruining the rest of my life".

It's a gradual, corrosive, destructive process. But it can be caught early. They are effectively socialised into it. Which means early intervention and prevention is entirely possible.

If we use the theory of group socialise, we can begin to assess how people start drinking alcohol

Stages of group socialisation (including alcoholic and junkie sub groups)
Individuals and groups change their evaluations and commitments to each other over time. There is a predictable sequence of stages that occur in order for an individual to transition through a group; investigation, socialization, maintenance, resocialization, and remembrance. During each stage, the individual and the group evaluate each other which leads to an increase or decrease in commitment to socialization. This socialization pushes the individual from prospective, new, full, marginal, and ex member.[40]

Stage 1: Investigation This stage is marked by a cautious search for information. The individual compares groups in order to determine which one will fulfill their needs (reconnaissance), while the group estimates the value of the potential member (recruitment). The end of this stage is marked by entry to the group, whereby the group asks the individual to join and they accept the offer. The Somali girl or boy seeks out a "friendship" group, gang, co-workers, neighbours, fellow students etc. who will eventually introduce her or him to alcoholism and drug addiction.

Stage 2: Socialization Now that the individual has moved from prospective member to new member, they must accept the group's culture. At this stage, the individual accepts the group's norms, values, and perspectives (assimilation), and the group adapts to fit the new member's needs (accommodation). The acceptance transition point is then reached and the individual becomes a full member. However, this transition can be delayed if the individual or the group reacts negatively. For example, the individual may react cautiously or misinterpret other members' reactions if they believe that they will be treated differently as a newcomer. The Somali girl or boy is encouraged to drink, or even ridiculed or made fun of for being "boring". By people who are destructive (xasads) and jealous of the young boy or girl's perceived purity. The boy or girl has low self esteem, low religious education, low cultural Somali knowledge, limited links to decent self-respective, religious Somalis. So they are vulnerable and susceptible to manipulation and join in with the group.

Stage 3: Maintenance During this stage, the individual and the group negotiate what contribution is expected of members (role negotiation). While many members remain in this stage until the end of their membership, some individuals are not satisfied with their role in the group or fail to meet the group's expectations (divergence). The Somali girl or boy gets into a habit and it becomes an addition.

Stage 4: Resocialization If the divergence point is reached, the former full member takes on the role of a marginal member and must be resocialized. There are two possible outcomes of resocialization: differences are resolved and the individual becomes a full member again (convergence), or the group expels the individual or the individual decides to leave (exit). The Somali girl or boy either quits and is resocialised into acceptable Islamic, Somali cultural norms and values. Or they try to quit, but are pulled back in by the group members.

Stage 5: Remembrance In this stage, former members reminisce about their memories of the group, and make sense of their recent departure. If the group reaches a consensus on their reasons for departure, conclusions about the overall experience of the group become part of the group's tradition.​
Are u implying that everyone who starts drinking is because of peer pressure? There are people who drink because they are depressed and going through shit and wanna numb the pain.
 
Are u implying that everyone who starts drinking is because of peer pressure? There are people who drink because they are depressed and going through shit and wanna numb the pain.

Their justification may be just that. Their rationalisation may be just as you've explained. The process, however, is as described above, proven through research.
 
I've tried mockatil , does it taste like that ?if so then I'm ok. Don't want to get drunk or drink again. That was my first and last time.

Next will be weed
Watch out for weed, easier to get hooked subconsciously.

Also unless you take it properly you won't feel anything so get an experienced friend . Also watch out for laced weed , that will really f*ck you up.
 

Mckenzie

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I've never rated ppl that yak on road. If it's just on a party vibe then it's controllable. You won't afford many parties in life and you will get tired of it. Tequila and Vodka are poisonous though, stick to Rum which is a Black mans drink.
 

AIOPZ

Pan-Islamist
There is no such thing as "safe drinking," saaxiib. All drinking is dangerous, as I've discussed in a previous thread of mine.

Now you won't get ajar for your prayers for the next 40 days and you've digged yourself a hole where you've become a willing participant of the West's drinking culture. Inshallah, I'll pray that you turn around and better yourself abaayo as I know you have a far better future ahead of you than alcohol and weed. It's never too late to turn around and ask for Allah's forgiveness.
 

SOULSEARCHING

Hakuna matata
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You all need to relax I'm not a addict, I was testing why people drink in the first place and why they continue. It was a oneday thing. I'm the most hardest person to pressure. And alhmadulilah I've repented from that event.

You guys think I'm that typical crazy Somali sister who goes astray and wants to live that Jamaican/African. American Life style like halsa and her sister on IG.

Don't tell me you guys have perfect lives.

I call myself a smart xalimo .
 

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