Female Circumcision

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I don't even know where to start. All I can say is, do some research walaal and see if you still feel the same way. Don't repeat what ignorant habro & odayaal Soomaliyeed say.
Are you denying the religious part? Cause i got the hadiths.
As for the last 20 yrs in my region and qurbaha its changed. Are you also going to deny that?
 
Muslim (349) narrated that ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “When a man sits between the four parts (arms and legs of his wife) and the two circumcised parts meet, then ghusl is obligatory.”

Abu Dawood (5271) narrated from Umm ‘Atiyyah al-Ansaariyyah that a woman used to do circumcisions in Madeenah and the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said to her: “Do not go to the extreme in cutting; that is better for the woman and more liked by the husband.


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Are you denying the religious part? Cause i got the hadiths.
As for the last 20 yrs in my region and qurbaha its changed. Are you also going to deny that?
The hadith is disputed and at best, it is only permissable. In any case, neither the quran and or ahadith endorse the FGM practices in today's world. If you look at it closely, you'll notice that it is more common in cultures (especially African nations) where they were already practicing some form of FGM before Islam... They were more susceptible to taking the hadith and running with it. Its very uncommon among other Muslims like the Arabs in the Middle East.
 
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The hadith is disputed and at best, it is only permissable. In any case, neither the quran and or ahadith endorse the FGM practices in today's world. If you look at it closely, you'll notice that it is more common in cultures (especially African nations) where they were already practicing some form of FGM before Islam, as they were more susceptible to taking the hadith and running with it. Its very uncommon among other Muslims like the Arabs in the Middle East.
Which one is disputed. Again you snowflakes get triggered so quick. Did i say anything about FGM be allowed. Read and understand. As for the hadiths they are saheeh. We beleive in the Sunnah.
As for if it was prior i dont know or care much.
Again tell The UN and Western Nations that there is a good way of circumcision and they will still call it FGM. Whats your argument.
 

Cigaal

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Female circumcision is obligatory according to the madhab of imam shafi. Of course it’s important to point out it’s different to female genital mutilation. Female circumcision consists of simply removing the prepuce of the clitoris. This wouldn’t cause the amount of pain fgm does not remove most pleasure or sensitivity. Due to the fact that it’s practically impossible these days to find someone who is qualified for this lots of shafi scholars recommend women to follow the hanafi opinion regarding this (which is that it’s honourable but not obligatory)
 

psyche

To each their own
Which one is disputed. Again you snowflakes get triggered so quick. Did i say anything about FGM be allowed. Read and understand. As for the hadiths they are saheeh. We beleive in the Sunnah.
As for if it was prior i dont know or care much.
Again tell The UN and Western Nations that there is a good way of circumcision and they will still call it FGM. Whats your argument.

She is telling the truth, the second hadith you have mention is a weak hadith at best with a broken chain, while the first one can be interpreted in a different way and doesn't directly endorse FGM.
 
She is telling the truth, the second hadith you have mention is a weak hadith at best with a broken chain, while the first one can be interpreted in a different way and doesn't directly endorse FGM.
What does Fgm mean.
Albani made it saheeh.
I said all women must be circumcised. According to English Fgm and female circumcision is the same thing to them. Read my posts. I never talked about Fgm.
 

psyche

To each their own
What does Fgm mean.
Albani made it saheeh.
I said all women must be circumcised. According to English Fgm and female circumcision is the same thing to them. Read my posts. I never talked about Fgm.

Abu Dawud considers his own hadith as weak. Enough said
 
kiinterka hadaan lagoyniin gabdaha kacsii baa haynayo, sii kalo majiirto - kiinterka qaf siiya

You are absolutely disgusting.

So they are meant to not feel anything when they are with their husbands?

Islamically it is haraam to chop of the kintiir you weirdo. Islam recognises that pleasure is the right for BOTH men and women.

Men as a whole are more promiscuous than women, maybe we need to think about a procedure for them.
 
I wonder if thats also the purpose of male circumcision
It cannot be compared.

ForeSKIN is what is taken out for men. Whilst women a whole ORGAN is taken out with 100s of nerves and then is stitched up. Hence, why the experience is 10 times more barbaric.

Also, you lot claim to have respect for Somali women, so why weaponise their suffering at the hands of our ignorant part of our culture? It is something that you should be ashamed about.
 
What does Fgm mean.
Albani made it saheeh.
I said all women must be circumcised. According to English Fgm and female circumcision is the same thing to them. Read my posts. I never talked about Fgm.

Even Scholars who believe in circumcision believe it is optional. Who are you to say they have to?

Also, when Somalis talk about circumcision they are talking about the kintiir being chopped off which is haraam.

Of course people are going to get triggered, what type of dumb statement is that. Women are getting their bodies violated. Ufff. Bilaa naxaris.
 
Even Scholars who believe in circumcision believe it is optional. Who are you to say they have to?

Also, when Somalis talk about circumcision they are talking about the kintiir being chopped off which is haraam.

Of course people are going to get triggered, what type of dumb statement is that. Women are getting their bodies violated. Ufff. Bilaa naxaris.
I dont care about what you somalis think. Circumcision of both sexes is wajib . Umm Aisha has stated. Somali women need to be circumcised i dont care and no its not bila naxaris. Sunnah is sunnah. You automatically think it has to be completely cut. When did i say that. Learn to understand english.
 

psyche

To each their own
I dont care about what you somalis think. Circumcision of both sexes is wajib . Umm Aisha has stated. Somali women need to be circumcised i dont care and no its not bila naxaris. Sunnah is sunnah. You automatically think it has to be completely cut. When did i say that. Learn to understand english.

So you want females to be mutilated and scarred for life.
Just because you believe some weak hadith.
10/10 logic
 
I dont care about what you somalis think. Circumcision of both sexes is wajib . Umm Aisha has stated. Somali women need to be circumcised i dont care and no its not bila naxaris. Sunnah is sunnah. You automatically think it has to be completely cut. When did i say that. Learn to understand english.

No hadith states that. You cannot interpret hadiths by yourself.

The prophet s.a.w did not circumcise his daughters. So why must Somali women? Please explain.
 
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What kind of savages did you grow up with ahahaahaa
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You are absolutely disgusting.

So they are meant to not feel anything when they are with their husbands?

Islamically it is haraam to chop of the kintiir you weirdo. Islam recognises that pleasure is the right for BOTH men and women.

Men as a whole are more promiscuous than women, maybe we need to think about a procedure for them.

Are you dizzy? I think we should focus on removing your kiintiir! Watch out your steps
 
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