What Was the Point of Communism?

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Basra

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You always talk in code. Is it to be more mysterious or are you another crazy female? What does alch mean?:ileycry:


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Ape

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Brother you are a clearly a lunatic and should consider getting yourself checked out. "Fascism is good" omegalul:ufdup:
It is though. Hitler only failed in militaristic terms. The nazi economy rose high and had a high growth rate. You cant deny this
 
Communism is an ideology like any other ideology and as Ape mentioned, the application of Marx’s original idea during the Bolshevik Revolution, an overwhelming majority of the Russians were illiterate peasants who lived under feudal type estate order. It has to be shelved because these peasants didn’t trust Lenin and Trotsky and rebelled against them. Instead, they introduced a repressive and dictatorship regime. But, Ape is wrong about Trotsky. He was a high achieving student at school, a great organiser and an excellent theorist. Combine all of these, he was a great intellectual. Having said that, since they became dictatorial and repressive, he became very arrogant and cocky.

I thought if communism accepted creationism with a dose of female subjugation, it would’ve been similar to Catholicism or Sunni-Islam.
 

Basra

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Communism is an ideology like any other ideology and as Ape mentioned, the application of Marx’s original idea during the Bolshevik Revolution, an overwhelming majority of the Russians were illiterate peasants who lived under feudal type estate order. It has to be shelved because these peasants didn’t trust Lenin and Trotsky and rebelled against them. Instead, they introduced a repressive and dictatorship regime. But, Ape is wrong about Trotsky. He was a high achieving student at school, a great organiser and an excellent theorist. Combine all of these, he was a great intellectual. Having said that, since they became dictatorial and repressive, he became very arrogant and cocky.

I thought if communism accepted creationism with a dose of female subjugation, it would’ve been similar to Catholicism or Sunni-Islam.


"with a dose of female subjugation"


Aussie

What do u mean??? Do u believe in a form of controlled women domination? U want women to be controlled in a prescribed dose??
 
It is though. Hitler only failed in militaristic terms. The nazi economy rose high and had a high growth rate. You cant deny this
Yes it was effective in certain ways, no doubt. But you give fascism too much credit and the germans too little. The germans has always been praised for their techonolgical prowess, they already had a good amount of educated and skilled working force and thus could collectivly work effective in any given system. I think we should use Mussolinis fascist rule as an example because he actually created, popularized and fully embodied the concept.

This is some points that fascism holds

1. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator.
2. A capitalist economy subject to stringent gorvernmental controls
3. Voilent suppression of the opposition
4. And typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism

So you see, facism is not bound by any ideology, but can actually be used in every ideology and therfore is not a coherent system in of itself.

So if you follow the teachings of fascism then you should submit to the current ruler in power, and let that ruler oppress you and use it's subject for whatever reason he may have. If he choses to divert from what you first deemed right, in this ideology the dictator is the ulitmate authority and should not be judged by what's moraly right or wrong.

I personally don't see the logic in following an oppressive system that is programmed to self destruct. You said Hitler's militaristic endeavours were the reasons facism in germany failed, but you failed to understand that going out and invade your enemies for personal gains is one of the core elements fascism holds. So either you are not well versed in this system or you only see value in the process and ignore the rest. But either way, both reasons fails to undertsand that any fundementally fascist systems are going against the natural order. And in this analysis i even exluded the obvious reasons a pure fascist country would never prevail, namely the geoplolitical relations.
 
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China is a communist country and it seems to be doing great. Their power of making change is more quick and powerful than American democratic system. I think Africa needs something like this. But the problem will be, if the state decides to remove religion out of the equation. I cannot for a second imagine a Somalia without Islam or the somali famous Imaan. I cant imagine walking the streets of Xamar worshiping and bowing to the giant post photo of the founding shy father Siyaad Baare. I mean, Ape would love this, because he is Marehaan. But the rest of us, Allaah swt loving, that is a nightmare.
 

YourBroMoe

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Communism is an idea based on the idealistic world of man. This lack of reality fucked it up.

Capitalism is similar, but people actually like money and resources, so it caught on because it's natural. Doesn't make it the most ideal world however.

So basically, we're either gonna go the idealistic route, but f*ck ourselves over.
Or we're gonna f*ck ourselves over because it's the natural thing to do.
 
China is a communist country and it seems to be doing great. Their power of making change is more quick and powerful than American democratic system. I think Africa needs something like this. But the problem will be, if the state decides to remove religion out of the equation. I cannot for a second imagine a Somalia without Islam or the somali famous Imaan. I cant imagine walking the streets of Xamar worshiping and bowing to the giant post photo of the founding shy father Siyaad Baare. I mean, Ape would love this, because he is Marehaan. But the rest of us, Allaah swt loving, that is a nightmare.
Yes, you are right in some ways. China has 5 year planned economy where they make decisions and tell all the institutions how to function within those next 5 years. So it is very effective in many ways, economically. It is a communist country with capitalist economy. They also have discarded many of the political, religious and social freedoms to put more emphasis and legitimize the 'state' more without any obstacles. That's why you see them controling the media, internet and such. And that type of rule would be impossile with countries that have major religious demograhic.

But what the hell is marehaan? Sounds like a conspiracy to me. lol
 

Basra

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Communism is an idea based on the idealistic world of man. This lack of reality fucked it up.

Capitalism is similar, but people actually like money and resources, so it caught on because it's natural. Doesn't make it the most ideal world however.

So basically, we're either gonna go the idealistic route, but f*ck ourselves over.
Or we're gonna f*ck ourselves over because it's the natural thing to do.


The answer should be in the middle. Socio-Capitalism System. Free market & government safety net.
 
Communism is an idea based on the idealistic world of man. This lack of reality fucked it up.

Capitalism is similar, but people actually like money and resources, so it caught on because it's natural. Doesn't make it the most ideal world however.

So basically, we're either gonna go the idealistic route, but f*ck ourselves over.
Or we're gonna f*ck ourselves over because it's the natural thing to do.
Yes. You are right to some extent. But both of these systems where never purely put in practice. The capitcalist system we have today is actually not the "right" kind of captitalism the top researchers are recognising it to be. So it can be improved and balanced, but that would also shake much of the current world order where the elites are currently resididing comfortably.
 

YourBroMoe

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Yes. You are right to some extent. But both of these systems where never purely put in practice. The capitcalist system we have today is actually not the "right" kind of captitalism the top researchers are recognising it to be. So it can be improved and balanced, but that would also shake much of the current world order where the elites are currently resididing comfortably.
Pretty much. Get to the top and f*ck the poor. That's how you make it fam.
 

YourBroMoe

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lol I know, and i have accepted it as it is. Im not a hero or an idealist anymore, life is short and i'm not going against the current to prove a point. Need that moolah baby :denzelnigga:

Btw, narcos s3 is out
Yo fam relax, I was fkin with you. You can make a lot without screwing others over. Jeezuuuuuus LOL
 
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