Ancestral North Africans (ANA)

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A new genetic component has been uncovered in a new study:

"Our co-modeling of Epipaleolithic Natufians and Ibero-Maurusians from Taforalt confirms that the Taforalt population was mixed11, but instead of specifying gene flow from the ancestors of Natufians into the ancestors of Taforalt as originally reported, we infer gene flow in the reverse direction (into Natufians). The Neolithic population from Morocco, closely related to Taforalt17 is also consistent with being descended from the source of this gene flow, and appears to have no admixture from the Levantine Neolithic (Supplementary Information section 3). If our model is correct, Epipaleolithic Natufians trace part of their ancestry to North Africa, consistent with morphological and archaeological studies that indicate a spread of morphological features22 and artifacts from North Africa into the Near East. Such a scenario would also explain the presence of Y-chromosome haplogroup E in the Natufians and Levantine farmers6, a common link between the Levant and Africa. Moreover, our model predicts that West Africans (represented by Yoruba) had 12.5±1.1% ancestry from a Taforalt related group rather than Taforalt having ancestry from an unknown Sub-Saharan African source11; this may have mediated the limited Neanderthal admixture present in West Africans23. An advantage of our model is that it allows for a local North African component in the ancestry of Taforalt, rather than deriving them exclusively from Levantine and Sub-Saharan sources."

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/early/2018/09/20/423079

What is Taforalt? Reminder: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taforalt#Ancient_DNA

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Somalis may be majority (over 50%) ANA.
 

Apollo

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Very interesting study :ohhh: if you could estimate our entire genetic composition now what would it be? @Apollo

Ancestral North African
Ancestral East African

^ The big two and:

Ancestral Irano-Anatolian whatever the f*ck

^ Those three components, percentages unknown for now. But probably in that order.
 

Apollo

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How come the Iberomaurusians cluster in between Horners and North Africans/Middle Easterns/Europeans?

PCA plots can be a bit misleading when there aren't many samples from an extinct or rare population. A PCA position does not always imply admixture. For example, Oceanians cluster between the Japanese and a bit towards SSAs while they are not made up of those two groups.

ANAs have contributed about 12% to West Africans. So, that could explain it. West Africans carry AWA + AEA + ANA + Homo Heidelbergensis (epic lol).
 
So the Yoruba also possess a Tarafoltian related ancestry? It is interesting to note that a lot of the Niger-Congo African ethnic groups trace their ancestry to areas further North of where they presently live. The desertification of the Sahara theory might actually be true in relation to how Haplogroup E individuals came to dominate Southern parts of the continent.

Are they also suggesting that North Africa was further 'whitened' by the influx of Eurasian Haplogroups into Africa? I remember reading that the Tarafult individuals did not possess the light skin/light coloured genes?

As for Irano-Chalcolithic ancestry in the Horn of Africa/North Africa, we ain't the only suspects as Haplogroup J groups also possessed it, and possibly the ancient Haplogroup R Eurasian migrants that settled in Africa.

p.s. We (T) Wuz Cadaan.:ohhh::win::drakekidding:
 

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"Both individuals had mitochondrial DNA sequences (U6 and N) that are consistent with deriving from lineages that are rare in the Caucasus or Europe today".

Somalis lack U6 whilst it's a common marker for Habeshas/Bejas. Could they therefore have gotten it from Ancestral North Africans, and not Coptics?
 

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Looks like Horners are primarily of North African extraction with an elevated Mbuti affinity.

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@NA9 If you want to kick out North Africans/Berbers out of Africa not for being indigenous, seems like us Horners gotta go too.[/USER]
 
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World

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Where do u think the mbuti ancestry came from?
"The proportion of ‘Mbuti’ ancestry represents the total of ‘Deep’ ancestry from lineages that split prior to the split of Ust’Ishim, Tianyuan, and West Eurasians and can include both ‘Basal Eurasian’ and other (e.g., Sub-Saharan African) ancestry."

So it's most likely Proto-Nilotic I'm guessing. I'm only a novice when it comes to genetics, so I'll wait for further input from @Apollo.
 

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I always wondered why our DNA is closer to north africans who live so far away from the horn vs yemenis/arabs who literally live on the other side of the red sea.

Seems like we were ancient north africanz n shieet

:kanyehmm::ohhh:
 
I always wondered why our DNA is closer to north africans who live so far away from the horn vs yemenis/arabs who literally live on the other side of the red sea.

Seems like we were ancient north africanz n shieet

:kanyehmm::ohhh:
Sxb, people as far as Morocco eat Baqrir (canjeero) and Msemen (Sabaayad). We wuz reer sabaayad.

#North East Africans
 

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"Both individuals had mitochondrial DNA sequences (U6 and N) that are consistent with deriving from lineages that are rare in the Caucasus or Europe today".

Somalis lack U6 whilst it's a common marker for Habeshas/Bejas. Could they therefore have gotten it from Ancestral North Africans, and not Coptics?

I'm not too sure anymore. For example, in Northern Kenya the Cushites there have a lot of haplogroup I (as in the letter i), but regular Somalis barely/almost never do. It could be all random (lost lineages etc).
 
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