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I was trying to get to sleep and I just imagined as my eyes were closed that death may be superficial and we just re-start again not in different bodies or different places but the same spot, I just saw myself as a child and then switched back to adult the present me, hence when u die, u just restarting again like nothing ever happened. I will think of an analogy to make it clearer. You could honestly just be in constant wake up and sleep and wake up and sleep mode but you won't even know it because it's instantenous I thinkand your back in your realm all over again.

Where you start up, I don't know to be quite honest but it seems instanteones, you could end up being really old and dying and wake up being really old and dying or a baby or anything in between. That deja vu stuff has me twisted, there is no other way why we have such recollections if it didn't happen, you don't recollect things that didn't occur.

I don't know what was before I was alive, in-fact the only thing I remember clearly and vividly was at the age of 5 and only one part I remember my nanny at the time holding me in her lap as we left the nation and I was crying. That's the only image I can remember from my childhood and bits here and there around 7-8 and where we lived and certain teachers and I remember year 1 real well as I cried again not knowing the language. I only remember my cries vividly, the rest is passing moments.

But the point is you shouldn't be able to know what is before, so we aren't I don't think lined up with millions of bodies in some heirachal fashion like top to down like the world is, but more in a horizontal way so when u drop, the next body is somewhere else in another experience again like nothing happened. This is could be endless loop existence and repeating itself over and over.

The question is, in my next life is it possible Somalia didn't have a civil war? or do the events of all your life just keep re-occurrring and there is no difference at all. Is there a different type of arena and world we enter with different stipulations and world orders? the possibility is endless and it's not predictable at all. I have a feeling we are stuck here for a long time untill we complete the mission of this existence which is to completely destroy the universe or we keep coming back or else god may step in eventually if he is there that is which I highly suspect he is.

It seems like a cage niyahow noone escapes untill you achieve the objectives which I don't know what the objective is. So you could die as islam says and religion but it's only when the objectives are fulfilled in this world and then you die and god knows where u go then. I think this life is about finding yourself and if you don't your ass is coming back till u do cause noone is going anywhere it seems. But that's just my guess.
 
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I was trying to get to sleep and I just imagined as my eyes were closed that death may be superficial and we just re-start again not in different bodies or different places but the same spot, I just saw myself as a child and then switched back to adult the present me, hence when u die, u just restarting again like nothing ever happened. I will think of an analogy to make it clearer. You could honestly just be in constant wake up and sleep and wake up and sleep mode but you won't even know it because it's instantenous I thinkand your back in your realm all over again.

Where you start up, I don't know to be quite honest but it seems instanteones, you could end up being really old and dying and wake up being really old and dying or a baby or anything in between. That deja vu stuff has me twisted, there is no other way why we have such recollections if it didn't happen, you don't recollect things that didn't occur.

I don't know what was before I was alive, in-fact the only thing I remember clearly and vividly was at the age of 5 and only one part I remember my nanny at the time holding me in her lap as we left the nation and I was crying. That's the only image I can remember from my childhood and bits here and there around 7-8 and where we lived and certain teachers and I remember year 1 real well as I cried again not knowing the language. I only remember my cries vividly, the rest is passing moments.

But the point is you shouldn't be able to know what is before, so we aren't I don't think lined up with millions of bodies in some heirachal fashion like top to down like the world is, but more in a horizontal way so when u drop, the next body is somewhere else in another experience again like nothing happened. This is could be endless loop existence and repeating itself over and over.

The question is, in my next life is it possible Somalia didn't have a civil war? or do the events of all your life just keep re-occurrring and there is no difference at all. Is there a different type of arena and world we enter with different stipulations and world orders? the possibility is endless and it's not predictable at all.
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Lol, Lay off the drugs sxb
 
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Lay off the drugs sxb
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What's do druggy about that? nothing is static in this world or absolute, it's all bendable, reshapable, you see with physical objects, why not yourself? just because there may not be a death doesn't mean nothing. My grandmother died recently in 2015, she could be seeing me all over again in her existence and from her point of return and I am not there even yet but to her I am and we are doing the good ole same things we did on the earth. Weird stuff but as long as time is there anything is possible. It's the most important rule that time is there, everything within time is then possible. The only thing that I wonder is where you re-start again, could you just pop back up on your last thought before death or do you go thru your childhood again.
 
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The only thing I hate about science is nowadays, is noone really even imagines anymore, it's like taboo and oh that's impossible, maybe it's a plantation rule who knows, we might start getting funny ideas about disturbing. But f*ck science it's to rigid and absolute and in ya face stuff, that's knowledge it ain't thinking beyond knowledge. For example if I was a scientist, I would know how to do IT based on the regiours factual approach I did it, but they don't allow for to expand IT based on my imagination and how to tweak it etc etc. No imagination must fuckin suck, science isn't imagination, it's no different knowledge related fields like IT, doctor, and even concreators or builders. It's knowledge, it isn't imagination or else you need to think the beyond the facts for imagination and then apply it to the problem.

So with my death theory, U dismissed it as lay off the drugs cause i broke knowledge norms and not being factual, it's like u dismissing me for thinking about how to fix a car differently and saying ahhhhh lay off the drugs you wack job just stick to how it's done. Science nowadays don't seem much different. EVIDENCE BLAH BLAH LOL
 
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I do think time is stoppable though, you can freeze everything inside the universe and I actually saw it once when I was unwell and freaked the shit out of me and dismissed it. Nothing was literally moving and it was one of the reasons, I don't say anymore I like to be alone. I had to learn shit the hard way sxb, becareful wat u wish for.

But yeah if time is forward, u can freeze and pause it but then will just keep on carryin from there. That's a possibility, is it factual well of course fuckin not. But there is no rewind like video tapes, once it goes forward, stopping is only possible or freezing it and what happens is nothing moves sxb but everything is still here, so time is separate from the universe, kinda like a ruler on the side of it. Infact you can freeze everything and only have u moving because that's what I saw when I not well once and freaking out in some mad shit.

Sound was there but just with me, nothing else, not even a wind blowing. You can freeze the world and have yourself walk around it only. Weird but I saw it. So time is confusing, it may have many facets a universal one and then lower layered time at an individual level or environment or watever.

Time = distance and speed that's not REAL time but just the time we know, the real time is when everything can freeze. Because to reach a distance and speed you still need motion(u gotta be moving) so it's separate. Movement is the REAL time, it's like the flow like a bath rub of water its flowing, but the pieces on board can travel on top of the water thru distance, time, speed, but thats separate to that flow which is motion.

So what I remember seeing was the body of water stopped because everything on top of it like trees, ppl, animals, nothing was moving so the body of flow has to stop but wat baffled me was I was moving since I was on the body of water. Hence anything is possible in life, trust me I would've never believed if I didn't experience it cause I was like u all knowledge, evidence, and rigourous physical approach which is useful but some places it has no use and thats why i gave up on it rationality and atheism as a whole, when i saw it failed me to explain what I was encountering, thats when i realized u need half and half and know when to use it.

I was walking around for weeks after that encounter, because it was the climax of my experience or what do u call that word SHEER TERROR, EVERYTHING ELSE BEFORE WAS WALK IN A PARK. I was walking thru dead people, they were alive but just eyes open and its like when u freeze a movie they stop at they were doing some on desks, some walking, then i ran outside it as night just to check and the trees werent moving too. So imagine just for one second, u freeze a dvd and chapter on a movie, imagine something is still walking thru it, weird huh? imagine its just one person still walking around? its impossible because the freeze applies to everything in that image not just single bits. But I saw it, and that's why I say connect with the spiritual side if u were u. Cause not everything you encounter is just all it is.
 
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What is that movie about. Ill check it out actually
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'This psychedelic tour of life after death is seen entirely from the point of view of Oscar (Nathaniel Brown), a young American drug dealer and addict living in Tokyo with his prostitute sister, Linda (Paz de la Huerta). When Oscar is killed by police during a bust gone bad, his spirit journeys from the past -- where he sees his parents before their deaths -- to the present -- where he witnesses his own autopsy -- and then to the future, where he looks out for his sister from beyond the grave'

its a hidden gem
 
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@DR OSMAN you should watch 'enter the void'
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It looks interesting not exactly my experience though, there was no graves, it was me the same me. But all things weren't literally moving or any object, I remember looking to see if the moon was there and light and then said to myself ahhhh light has to be there cause the place had lights on, then confirmed ok air is here so im breathing, Then I checked darkness and it was there also as the light dimmed away in the hall way, Then I rain outside to check the trees no movement. All there was SPACE AND EVERYTHING FROZEN INSIDE and air was fine so I wonder is air a product of space. It's weird your driving me back to memory lane but it was quite vivid experience that I wont forget all my life. It was the end point it didnt get worse then that nor ever again. The second worse point is you feel your body aint yours and being controlled by something else, even felt a vagina on myself. It was wild shit.

I feel sorry for women that is unbearable that tingly feeling around private, and it get strong u can barely walk. Initially It started well and felt the voices speaking thru people and said that must be god and he was telling me good things, like you will have this garden and mountain when its all over. and pointed to a mountain i was excited, but everything after turned demons, there was no god after that and I havent seen any nice parts since runti. It's hellish always.
 
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It looks interesting not exactly my experience though, there was no graves, it was me the same me. But all things weren't literally moving or any object, I remember looking to see if the moon was there and light and then said to myself ahhhh light has to be there cause the place had lights on, then confirmed ok air is here so im breathing, Then I checked darkness and it was there also as the light dimmed away in the hall way, Then I rain outside to check the trees no movement. All there was SPACE AND EVERYTHING FROZEN INSIDE and air was fine so I wonder is air a product of space. It's weird your driving me back to memory lane but it was quite vivid experience that I wont forget all my life. It was the end point it didnt get worse then that nor ever again. The second worse point is you feel your body aint yours and being controlled by something else, even felt a vagina on myself. It was wild shit.

I feel sorry for women that is unbearable that tingly feeling around private, and it get strong u can barely walk. Initially It started well and felt the voices speaking thru people and said that must be god and he was telling me good things, like you will have this garden and mountain when its all over. and pointed to a mountain i was excited, but everything after turned demons, there was no god after that and I havent seen any nice parts since runti. It's hellish always.
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delta state of mind?
 
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How would I know women clitoris tingles and shrivals up if I didnt have a vagina tell me, I can describe it without even looking the whole sensation and the intensity levels, some are just not walkable but feels good but it so intense u cant walk and closing ur legs shut together
 
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delta state of mind?
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You know why I fear it so much? it's not so much the graphic hallucinations of horrible things like faces changing into animals, walls crushing me in a room and felt like u dying, ppl being thrown into open fire holes and being sucked in, ppl freezing, not owning ur body and cant even piss, some robotic also, then the thoughts are just a killer in itself and then it starts to speak thru others in messages and it seems like a challenge when ur in it sxb as if you need to do something for it to stop and what makes so bad is you know he won't stop and it's not a he but all of it, u cant reason with it, you cant say sorry to it, you cant get angry and waste your breath, i just ended up crying there is nothing else u can do and he aint going and u know it, it seems like its his terms not yours, its feel your being violated or raped.
 
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That's why it's critical you learn hope, once u lose it you get in that situation and suicide is next. U know what and wanna know the truth, what I do when im at the last point of the torture, I just say to it inside in my thoughts, Listen I respect u. I am not proving anything to you. It thought me when to back off in life this stuff. I never said that in my life that i respect anyone that genuine. Thats when i started to appreciate submission, the first thing im going to do is submit. Its actually relieving and u put the ball back in it's court, u dont keep running around buck wild. So when I die i just wanna die in a state of submission passing all trust to god, I think what its about, not thinking u have any hope.

Thats why atheism doesnt work for me, tried the rationality and was stuck in there for weeks till I surrendered and everything got easier not straight away but a big sigh of relief u did all u could. I actually started to respect religion from that day forward. I also realized just cause the way they described god, is analogical sxb or it can be literal who knows or a mix of both, its hard to explain your experiencing something surreal unless u common words that ppl can relate too. So thats how I see them anyways and don't dismiss it cause anything is possibe.
 
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Don't worry I was most like of you in the past, so I can't hold it against you, but the mentality I had to focus on what I do sense and dismiss as ludicurous what I don't sense or experience or see tangible evidence for. It was a very rationale process and I still do it as it has a place but when you go there, you will realize to worry about what u don't experience or sense rather then what you do(rationale) that now becomes the least ranked issue and your mind will always wander back if someone brings it up or you just try to put piece together on what occurred and why.
 
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On a final note on this topic of time, it's not as clear cut as explained. Just imagine time has sun and moon and the phases this is fake time, why? because what is making it move in the first place as time has to have movement? so there is another time. Now this time is where it's at. I know you can speed up to the point you don't even feel it anymore but it's not that u have to reach certain speed level, because that is fake time and more to do with distance and speed, the motion of movement is the same. It's like walking around the block, you haven't really sped up at all but your getting their so much quicker and not even feeling it as u stroll by with your normal pace but your covering far more yards then in normal time.

Plus I also believe anything can be put where you want, like you can create a building so quick you don't even see it happening and by the time u get there you think it was done a long time ago, not just building but anything and it actually has the aging markers on it even though u know it was freshly done. Strange isn't it, I will think about in my sleep some time to make it clearer
 
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That's why it's critical you learn hope, once u lose it you get in that situation and suicide is next. U know what and wanna know the truth, what I do when im at the last point of the torture, I just say to it inside in my thoughts, Listen I respect u. I am not proving anything to you. It thought me when to back off in life this stuff. I never said that in my life that i respect anyone that genuine. Thats when i started to appreciate submission, the first thing im going to do is submit. Its actually relieving and u put the ball back in it's court, u dont keep running around buck wild. So when I die i just wanna die in a state of submission passing all trust to god, I think what its about, not thinking u have any hope.

Thats why atheism doesnt work for me, tried the rationality and was stuck in there for weeks till I surrendered and everything got easier not straight away but a big sigh of relief u did all u could. I actually started to respect religion from that day forward. I also realized just cause the way they described god, is analogical sxb or it can be literal who knows or a mix of both, its hard to explain your experiencing something surreal unless u common words that ppl can relate too. So thats how I see them anyways and don't dismiss it cause anything is possibe.
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That is islam sxb. After submission you get the peace. Dont be cheated Dr. Osman.
 
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On a final note on this topic of time, it's not as clear cut as explained. Just imagine time has sun and moon and the phases this is fake time, why? because what is making it move in the first place as time has to have movement? so there is another time. Now this time is where it's at. I know you can speed up to the point you don't even feel it anymore but it's not that u have to reach certain speed level, because that is fake time and more to do with distance and speed, the motion of movement is the same. It's like walking around the block, you haven't really sped up at all but your getting their so much quicker and not even feeling it as u stroll by with your normal pace but your covering far more yards then in normal time.

Plus I also believe anything can be put where you want, like you can create a building so quick you don't even see it happening and by the time u get there you think it was done a long time ago, not just building but anything and it actually has the aging markers on it even though u know it was freshly done. Strange isn't it, I will think about in my sleep some time to make it clearer
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Allah has kun fayakun. Very simple.
This time and space is temporary.
When 1000 years pass here on earth its only 1 day passed for Allah. Mentioned in the quran.

Day of judgement is 50000 years long. Its a special day.
 
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The idea of when one body dies your soul transfers to another is fake. That is where the Hindus get caught in their thinking. The reincarnation.

Just like the womb of the mother was a world small compared to ours same for this world compared to barzakh life. There are two stations in the barzakh. Illiyun and sijjin. One for the successful souls the other for the unsuccessful ones.
 
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