Traitor Gaas begs bows down to his dheg cas masters

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What does my "region" have to do with my loyalty to Somalia as a whole? The problem with you type of people is you think in terms of divisions.You have fell for the propaganda pumped out by our enemies.You kill along with ridicule your brothers in pride and kiss the feet of your enemies.Look at how Gaas begs Dheg Cas and then goes off to Ethiopia to meet another foreign leader.Look how the Somalis starve across Somalia with no real economic boom for decades
due to division yet you pride this new type of governance.Look at your mentality when it comes to fellow Somalis from other regions.I say this with honesty , you are a disgusting stain on the Harti lineage. you and the rest of the traitors are not my brothers or my kin.The mooryans you hate are better than you 100 x over.

Your series of posts in this topic are worth their weight in gold, a true Somali with pride and love for his brethren so much so that no wicked foreigner could ever purchase his loyalty for a miserly price.

The way the colonialists used to divide and conquer was to convince their subject that their petty "local interests" for glory is all that mattered.

Those appointed subject leaders would then use the same arguments that imbecile was using against you whenever he encountered someone that saw the colonialist for what they are (colonialists officer taught him this)

The difference between both these guys is that at least that traitor tribal chief in the past personally benefited from his treachery as did his immediate family circle in terms of great personal wealth

This imbecile however is even worse then that peasant tribal chief because he is willing to sell himself and his people for no personal benefit whatsoever other then to please his masters and put a smile on their faces
 

TekNiKo

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Hes a big traitor, he went agaunst the federal government and embarassed us in the world stage. Arabs on twitter humiliated him because the saw another dhuuni raac Somali politician looking for his next meal.

Did you know Siilaanyo and Gaas both have mansions in UAE? They are only there for their interests alone, they can careless about tribe.

Yet folks are defending these inept leaders due to tribal affiliation.

Very Sad!
 

Cotton Eyed Joe

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I like @Inquisitive_ entrance to this thread, Somali pride shared with you? Pride in the eyes of moryaan is perpetual civil war in which they thrive. How disgusting for this moryaan to think I would share pride with such people.

We came to the truth of the matter in what @CangeeroBear said, the destruction of Puntland and of course the moryaan agrees it's his whole purpose for life. Being able to strike deals on our own, venture and invest in our own region is the root cause of their hatred. To be called traitor or selling out by baseborn scum you share no interest with is disgusting to me. To whom do we owe loyalty to reer Puntland? Ourselves or moryaans.
 
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Unlike many people who are Harti im anti federalism as a whole.I hope for the fall of puntland and every federal state within Somalia.As long as Somalia is not centralised it will continue being a cess pool.

Furthermore Do you have no pride? Imagine a grown man going to another country begging and selling out his nation for pennies.Puntland won't be what you think it will be , it's simply a barrier to a powerful state.

Gaas, a supposed federal governor , went to another country and after being bribed and fed he went on international television broadcasting his treacherous ways.
What's harti got to do with federalism or Puntland for that matter?
 
Quit with your bullshit we are talking about nation states not some tinpot tribal kingdoms millennia ago. Your points become so convoluted they border on the ridiculous.
All the states in Africa today are built mostly on a colonialist background , ignoring the history of African decentralised states is foolish.The main reason why Africa was colonised was because of decentralisation, you can see examples in central Africa etc.All other causes such as lack of innovation etc are caused by this.The ignorant thing is that you support the same type of governance , a decentralised pluralistic state is chaos.A centralised state where everyone has a say in government is a justfull society.
 
It is totally wrong for Gaas to undermine Farmaajo/Kheyre, but he had no choice. Puntland’s economy is basically an appendage of Dubai’s. The UAE is Puntland’s sole connection to the outside world. They could basically starve Puntland if they so wanted. Distancing himself was good for Puntland and very bad for the future sovereignty of Somalia.

The fact that Puntland’s interests are so diverged from those of the country it is ostensibly part of goes to show you the depth of state collapse in Somalia. Very sad to this.

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Puntlands interests ? This is hardly in puntlands interest.This is in Gaas's interests,any region which primarily relies on outside funds become dependant on another nation.The result is a corrupt elite with sub par institutions, puntland will only get worse this way.There is no intrinsic benefit from this.
 

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Very disappointed in Gas, This is the problem of being financially dependent on foriegn aid. In the end u practically become their employee. I am glad the great people of Puntland, who have contributed heavily to the existence of Somalia do not agree with the actions of Abdiweli. Remember in the end, we are in this boat together and we should trust each other to direct it towards the path of progression. :)
 
Puntlands interests ? This is hardly in puntlands interest.This is in Gaas's interests,any region which primarily relies on outside funds become dependant on another nation.The result is a corrupt elite with sub par institutions, puntland will only get worse this way.There is no intrinsic benefit from this.
Waawareey the kid is woke @CangeeroBear 4 Madaxweyne2020
 

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@CangeeroBear Even though you're a Tunnasangali that heavily contributes to the fishing sector of Somaliland. I still have respect for you exposing these Punanis.
 

Cotton Eyed Joe

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All the states in Africa today are built mostly on a colonialist background , ignoring the history of African decentralised states is foolish.The main reason why Africa was colonised was because of decentralisation, you can see examples in central Africa etc.All other causes such as lack of innovation etc are caused by this.The ignorant thing is that you support the same type of governance , a decentralised pluralistic state is chaos.A centralised state where everyone has a say in government is a justfull society.
Can you stop with the buzzwords and the regurgitation of things that have nothing to do with the subject? You jump from point A to point E and conclude somewhere very far away. Innovation, colonial Africa, Kush kingdom, decentralized pluralistic state, 'justfull' society ya Allah. I have yet to understand your argument here.
 

Cotton Eyed Joe

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Puntlands interests ? This is hardly in puntlands interest.This is in Gaas's interests,any region which primarily relies on outside funds become dependant on another nation.The result is a corrupt elite with sub par institutions, puntland will only get worse this way.There is no intrinsic benefit from this.
You can taste the irony here. Can't you apply this to literally the same Xamar whose will you seek to impose on Puntland?

Explain to us how foreign investment from UAE is not in Puntland's interest.
 

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Puntlands interests ? This is hardly in puntlands interest.This is in Gaas's interests,any region which primarily relies on outside funds become dependant on another nation.The result is a corrupt elite with sub par institutions, puntland will only get worse this way.There is no intrinsic benefit from this.

You do not seem to understand. The pressure placed on Somalia by the UAE will disproportionately hurt Puntland as it is entirely dependent upon Dubai. What you are asking Puntland to do is to shoulder this burden on behalf of all of Somalia. Unlike Mogadishu, we do not have the backing of Qatar and Turkey who will fill in the void left behind by the UAE. Puntland has no guarantees from Farmaajo or Kheyre on whether or not they will pay the troops that are on the UAE's payroll in Puntland. Somalia has 2 ports that export livestock, Berbera and Bosaso. Somaliland has made clear which side it is on. What if the UAE declares all animal exports from Bosaso infected with RVF just before Hajj in August? Will Qatar or Turkey import what the UAE would have imported? Will Qatar start up a Doha-Bosaso route once the UAE shuts down flights to Bosaso? Almost all business operating in Puntland have their actual legal hqs in Dubai, will Qatar allow hundreds of businesses to shift over to Doha?

You are a little kid who does not understand what is actually at stake. Slogans and flag waving have no meaning in the material world.
 
You do not seem to understand. The pressure placed on Somalia by the UAE will disproportionately hurt Puntland as it is entirely dependent upon Dubai. What you are asking Puntland to do is to shoulder this burden on behalf of all of Somalia. Unlike Mogadishu, we do not have the backing of Qatar and Turkey who will fill in the void left behind by the UAE. Puntland has no guarantees from Farmaajo or Kheyre on whether or not they will pay the troops that are on the UAE's payroll in Puntland. Somalia has 2 ports that export livestock, Berbera and Bosaso. Somaliland has made clear which side it is on. What if the UAE declares all animal exports from Bosaso infected with RVF just before Hajj in August? Will Qatar or Turkey import what the UAE would have imported? Will Qatar start up a Doha-Bosaso route once the UAE shuts down flights to Bosaso? Almost all business operating in Puntland have their actual legal hqs in Dubai, will Qatar allow hundreds of businesses to shift over to Doha?

You are a little kid who does not understand what is actually at stake. Slogans and flag waving have no meaning in the material world.
So what you are saying is that the dependence on foreign investments due to puntlands lack of foresight has caused the region to be dependent on others.What you are now supporting is the entrenching of such reliance instead of actually try to transform the existing institutions.This line of thinking is contradictory And was precisely why I said foreign
Reliance is not in any Somalis investment.
 
You can taste the irony here. Can't you apply this to literally the same Xamar whose will you seek to impose on Puntland?

Explain to us how foreign investment from UAE is not in Puntland's interest.
Yes you could attribute the same thought process to
Xamar but if we had a democratic centralised state
The nation could allocate resources efficiently and rebuilt itself faster.Puntland will continue to stagnate as no "leader" of puntland has a vision.You are thinking in the now not 20,40 or 50 years ahead.The result is that you don't see the regions autonomy will simply weaken Somalia as a whole.

Furthermore I'm not only against puntland , I'm against all federalised states as they promote a division within the nation, this has been proven throughout history to stagnate political and hence economic growth.
 
Can you stop with the buzzwords and the regurgitation of things that have nothing to do with the subject? You jump from point A to point E and conclude somewhere very far away. Innovation, colonial Africa, Kush kingdom, decentralized pluralistic state, 'justfull' society ya Allah. I have yet to understand your argument here.
All the points I mentioned lead to the same
Point, a decentralised state stagnates political and economic growth.I simply was showing examples of that within Africa, it also relates to your post on "ignoring" African states before colonialism.
 
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