Somalis established a ruling dynasty in Maldive islands.

Amun said:

Somalis have no history.

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says the garac

World said:

Ibn Battuta didn't say he was Morrocan, because Morocco didn't even exist then. He said he was from Bilad-al-Berber, which was what Somalia was known back then. He visited Mogadishu in Southern Somalia and said that the ruler was a Berber, visited Zeila in Northern Somalia and said that the inhabitants are Berbers, and went to Maldives and said that the ruler is a Berber.

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The recorded history of Morocco begins with the Phoenician colonization of the Moroccan coast between the 8th and 6th centuries BC, although the area was inhabited by indigenous Berbers for some two thousand years before that. ... Half a century later, the Moroccan state was established by the Idrisid dynasty.
History of Morocco - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Morocco

Ibn Batuta, his own words:

http://www.maldivesculture.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=199&Itemid=76

Cause of the conversion to Islam of the inhabitants of these islands and the demons from among the genii who molest them every month
Reliable men among the inhabitants of the islands, like the jurist (faqih) and teacher (mu'allim) Ali, the judge Abdullah - and others besides them - told me that the inhabitants of these islands were once infidels, and that every month a demon of the genii appeared to them: he came out of the sea and had the appearance of a ship full of lamps. It was customary with the islanders that when they saw him, they took a virgin maid whom they adorned and brought into a budkhana, that is, an idol-house which was built on the seashore and had a balcony commanding a view of the sea. They left the girl there overnight and the people, as they returned at daybreak, found her ravished and dead. Every month they cast lots and whoever was chosen gave his daughter.

Subsequently a Moroccan named Abul Barakat the Berber who knew the great Quran by heart came to them. He put up at the house of an old woman in the island of Mahal. One day as he saw her, he found that she had called her family together and the women were weeping as if they were in mourning. He enquired about their condition but they could not explain it to him. Then there came an interpreter, who informed him that the lot had fallen on the old woman who had no child except one daughter whom the demon was to kill.
'This night,' said Abul Barakat to the woman, 'I shall go in place of your daughter.' And, curiously enough, he had absolutely no beard.

He was brought at night into the idol house after he had performed his ablution. He kept reciting the Quran, and as the demon appeared to him through the balcony he continued his recitation. As the demon drew close enough to hear the recitation he plunged into the water and the westerner continued reciting as before until the dawn. Then the old woman, her family and the islanders came to take away the maiden and burn her as had been the practice. But they found the westerner reciting the Quran; so they took him to their king called Shanuraza and told him of the news. The king was astonished. The westerner then proposed to the king to embrace Islam and persuaded him to do so.
Shanuraza said to him, 'Stay with us till next month. If you act once more as you have already acted, and if you escape the demon again, I shall accept Islam.'

Abul Barakat the Berber was the famous Somali sheikh known as Aw Barkhadle.

Are you saying he's a Moroccan?

He was born in Somaliland for goodness sake.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yusuf_bin_Ahmad_al-Kawneyn

Where does it even say Morocco on his wikipedia page?

World said:

Abul Barakat the Berber was the famous Somali sheikh known as Aw Barkhadle.

Are you saying he's a Moroccan?

He was born in Somaliland for goodness sake.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yusuf_bin_Ahmad_al-Kawneyn

Where does it even say Morocco on his wikipedia page?

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Aw Barkhadle is somebody else. Ibn Batuta is the prime source, and he is talking about Abil Barakat al-Maghiribi. This is quite specific.:

"He stayed amongst them and God opened the heart of the king to Islam and he accepted it before the end of the month; and his wives, children and courtiers followed it. At the beginning of the next month, the Moroccan was brought into the idol house but the demon did not appear while he continued reciting the Quran till morning. Then the king and the people came to him, and they found him reciting. They broke to pieces the idols and razed the idol house to the ground. The islanders embraced Islam and sent missionaries to the rest of the islands, the inhabitants of which also became Muslims.

The Moroccan stood in high regard with them, and they accepted his cult which was that of Imam Malik. May God be pleased with him! And on account of him, they honour the Moroccans up to this time. He built a mosque which is known after his name. On the railed gallery (maqsura) of the congregational mosque, I read the allowing inscription carved in wood - Aslama as-sultan Ahmad Shanuraza ala yade Abil Barakat al-maghiribi (the sultan Ahmad Shanuraza accepted Islam at the hands of Abul Barakat the Moroccan). And the king assigned one third of the evenues of the islands to charitable purposes for travellers, since his conversion had taken place through them; and this portion of the state revenue is still disposed of for the same purpose."

Abil Barakat al-Maghiribi would have come across the Mediterranean and then down the Red Sea. The Maghreb is the Atlas mountains, mostly in Morocco.

Grant said:

Aw Barkhadle is somebody else. Ibn Batuta is the prime source, and he is talking about Abil Barakat al-Maghiribi. This is quite specific.:

"He stayed amongst them and God opened the heart of the king to Islam and he accepted it before the end of the month; and his wives, children and courtiers followed it. At the beginning of the next month, the Moroccan was brought into the idol house but the demon did not appear while he continued reciting the Quran till morning. Then the king and the people came to him, and they found him reciting. They broke to pieces the idols and razed the idol house to the ground. The islanders embraced Islam and sent missionaries to the rest of the islands, the inhabitants of which also became Muslims.

The Moroccan stood in high regard with them, and they accepted his cult which was that of Imam Malik. May God be pleased with him! And on account of him, they honour the Moroccans up to this time. He built a mosque which is known after his name. On the railed gallery (maqsura) of the congregational mosque, I read the allowing inscription carved in wood - Aslama as-sultan Ahmad Shanuraza ala yade Abil Barakat al-maghiribi (the sultan Ahmad Shanuraza accepted Islam at the hands of Abul Barakat the Moroccan). And the king assigned one third of the evenues of the islands to charitable purposes for travellers, since his conversion had taken place through them; and this portion of the state revenue is still disposed of for the same purpose."

Abil Barakat al-Maghiribi would have come across the Mediterranean and then down the Red Sea. The Maghreb is the Atlas mountains, mostly in Morocco.

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Oh, what a coincidence. Aw Barkhadle also is credited to spreading Islam in the Maldives.

"In the Maldives, he is called Saint Abu Barakat al Barbari ("blessed father of Somalia") and whose religious name was Shaykh Yusuf al Kawneyn.[4] He is also credited with spreading Islam in the islands, establishing the Hukuru Miskiiy Mosque, and converting the Maldivian population into Islam.[21] Ibn Batuta states the Madliveian king was converted by Abu Al Barakat Al Berber ("blessed father of Somalia").[15] The Shaykh reportedly converted the islands into Islam by convincing the local King, Sultan Mohammed Al Adil, after having subdued Ranna Maari, a demon coming from the sea.[22]

Please reference any source that says his name is Abu Barakat al-Maghribi, because according to:

1) Altenmüller, H., Hunwick, J. O., O'Fahey, R. S., & Spuler, B. (2003). The writings of the Muslim peoples of northeastern Africa, Part 1, Volume 13. Leiden [u.a.] : Brill,. p. 174.
2) Richard Bulliet – History of the World to 1500 CE (Session 22) – Tropical Africa and Asia". Youtube.com. 23 November 2010. Retrieved 23 September 2013.

His name was Abu Barakt al Barbari.

Your source on the other hand is: http://www.maldivesculture.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=199&Itemid=76

What on earth?

The name Barbari has always used in reference to Somalis and other Cushitic populations in the Horn of Africa for at least 2000 years.



And the Chinese referred to us as that:



Even before all of this, the Greeks in the Periplus of the Erythraean Sea(nearly 2000 years ago) referred to us Barbars/Berbers.

(modern day Zeila):
"From this place the Arabian Gulf trends toward the east and becomes narrowest just before the Gulf of Avalites. After about four thousand stadia, for those sailing eastward along the same coast, there are other Berber market-towns, known as the “far-side” ports; lying at intervals one after the other, without harbors but having roadsteads where ships can anchor and lie in good weather. The first is called Avalites; to this place the voyage from Arabia to the far-side coast is the shortest. Here there is a small market-town called Avalites, which must be reached by boats and rafts. There are imported into this place, flint glass, assorted; juice of sour grapes from Diospolis; dressed cloth, assorted, made for the Berbers; wheat, wine, and a little tin. There are exported from the same place, and sometimes by the Berbers themselves crossing on rafts to Ocelis and Muza on the opposite shore, spices, a little ivory, tortoise-shell, and a very little myrrh, but better than the rest. And the Berbers who live in the place are very unruly."

Factz said:

We already explained it. No need to repeat the pictures. Also, to answer your question. The source you have shown says discovered. I never said Somalis were the first people to discover the islands. I said the Somalis converted the maldive population into Islam and established a colony under the Ajuran Empire.

The Islands were converted to Islam by a Somali saint called Yusuf bin Ahmad al-Kawneyn. Watch this video who is a very famous and well-respected historian and scholar called Richard Bulliet. He mentions the Somali saint and Hilaale Dynasty being Somali. Watch it from below.

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When does he start talking about Somalis? The whole video is a bit too long to sit through sxb.

World said:

Oh, what a coincidence. Aw Barkhadle also is credited to spreading Islam in the Maldives.

"In the Maldives, he is called Saint Abu Barakat al Barbari ("blessed father of Somalia") and whose religious name was Shaykh Yusuf al Kawneyn.[4] He is also credited with spreading Islam in the islands, establishing the Hukuru Miskiiy Mosque, and converting the Maldivian population into Islam.[21] Ibn Batuta states the Madliveian king was converted by Abu Al Barakat Al Berber ("blessed father of Somalia").[15] The Shaykh reportedly converted the islands into Islam by convincing the local King, Sultan Mohammed Al Adil, after having subdued Ranna Maari, a demon coming from the sea.[22]

Please reference any source that says his name is Abu Barakat al-Maghribi, because according to:

1) Altenmüller, H., Hunwick, J. O., O'Fahey, R. S., & Spuler, B. (2003). The writings of the Muslim peoples of northeastern Africa, Part 1, Volume 13. Leiden [u.a.] : Brill,. p. 174.
2) Richard Bulliet – History of the World to 1500 CE (Session 22) – Tropical Africa and Asia". Youtube.com. 23 November 2010. Retrieved 23 September 2013.

His name was Abu Barakt al Barbari.

Your source on the other hand is: http://www.maldivesculture.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=199&Itemid=76

What on earth?

The name Barbari has always used in reference to Somalis and other Cushitic populations in the Horn of Africa for at least 2000 years.

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And the Chinese referred to us as that:

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Even before all of this, the Greeks in the Periplus of the Erythraean Sea(nearly 2000 years ago) referred to us Barbars/Berbers.

(modern day Zeila):
"From this place the Arabian Gulf trends toward the east and becomes narrowest just before the Gulf of Avalites. After about four thousand stadia, for those sailing eastward along the same coast, there are other Berber market-towns, known as the “far-side” ports; lying at intervals one after the other, without harbors but having roadsteads where ships can anchor and lie in good weather. The first is called Avalites; to this place the voyage from Arabia to the far-side coast is the shortest. Here there is a small market-town called Avalites, which must be reached by boats and rafts. There are imported into this place, flint glass, assorted; juice of sour grapes from Diospolis; dressed cloth, assorted, made for the Berbers; wheat, wine, and a little tin. There are exported from the same place, and sometimes by the Berbers themselves crossing on rafts to Ocelis and Muza on the opposite shore, spices, a little ivory, tortoise-shell, and a very little myrrh, but better than the rest. And the Berbers who live in the place are very unruly."

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Once again:

The recorded history of Morocco begins with the Phoenician colonization of the Moroccan coast between the 8th and 6th centuries BC, although the area was inhabited by indigenous Berbers for some two thousand years before that. ... Half a century later, the Moroccan state was established by the Idrisid dynasty.
History of Morocco - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Morocco


If you will check a map of E1b1b you will quickly find that Morocco has concentrations as dense as Somalia. They are the original Berbers.

The first translation of Ibn Batuta that I gave you is:
The Maldive Islands, Dhibat-ul-Mahal part 2
Chapter 16 from the English translation by Dr. Mahdi Husain
The Rehla of Ibn Battuta - India, Maldive Islands and Ceylon - translation and commentary
Oriental Institute, Baroda, India 1976

This translation is the whole Rehla and is more difficult to deal with because of it's length:

http://englishattheuniversity.weebly.com/uploads/1/0/5/3/10532852/ibn_battutas_travels.pdf

See following page 179.

In this transslation, Abul Barakat the Berber is called a western Arab and a Mogrebine. Again, Magreb. . Morocco is a common home to western Berbers. Aw Barkhadle wasn't a western Arab or a Mogrebine.

Grant said:

I never fail to be amazed at the way some Somalis grab at the smallest straws, making huge mats and houses out of them. Ibn Batutta said Abu Barakat was from Morocco. It was later suggested he could have come from Berbera or Tabriz.

http://www.self.gutenberg.org/articles/eng/Republic_of_the_Maldives

"The famous Moroccan traveller Ibn Batutta, who visited the Maldives in the 14th century, wrote how a Moroccan, one Abu Barakat the Berber, was believed to have been responsible for spreading Islam in the islands. Even though this report has been contested in later sources, it does explain some crucial aspects of Maldivian culture. For instance, historically Arabic has been the prime language of administration there, instead of the Persian and Urdu languages used in the nearby Muslim states. Another link to North Africa was the Maliki school of jurisprudence, used throughout most of North-Africa, which was the official one in the Maldives until the 17th centry.[27]

Some scholars have suggested the possibility of Ibn Battuta misreading Maldive texts, and have posited another scenario where this Abu Barakat might have been a native of Berbera, a significant trading port on the Somalian coast.[28] This scenario would also help explain the usage of the Arabic language and the predominance of the Maliki school on the islands.

Another interpretation, held by some of the islanders, is that Abu Barakat was an Iranian from Tabriz. In the Arabic script the words al-Barbari and al-Tabrizi are very much alike, owing to the fact that Arabic has no letters to represent vowels. The first reference to an Iranian origin dates to an 18th-century Persian text.[29]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sultans_of_the_Maldives

Hilaalee Dynasty
Name Monarch From Monarch Until Notes
Sultan Hassan I 1388 1398 First of the Hilaaly Dynasty.Son of Golhaavahi Kambulo (probably a Lunar dynasty lady) and Kulhiveri Hilaalu Kaeulhanna Kaloge son of Muslim Abbas of Hulhule


Did you make up that Wiki post on the Ajuraan? You or somebody like you did. It's not historically accurate.

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Grant, actually you never cease to amaze me. I had to come in here and ask you what are the chances of two Moroccans in the 14th century meeting in an island 8,000 miles away from their home? Aren't you the same guy, or perhaps it was the other white guy here, who said Adal empire was primarily an Afar, . You two have nefarious agenda. Come clean old man.

Xaagi-Cagmadigtee said:

Grant, actually you never cease to amaze me. I had to come in here and ask you what are the chances of two Moroccans in the 14th century meeting in an island 8,000 miles away from their home? Aren't you the same guy, or perhaps it was the other white guy here, who said Adal empire was primarily an Afar, . You two have nefarious agenda. Come clean old man.

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Interesting indeed. Ibn Batuta was also a Berber. They did not, however, meet. Ibn Batuta was recording a story related to him by a teacher, a judge, and other people. Certainly he knew what a Mogrebine was, had been to Mogadishu, and would have mentioned something had Abu'l Barakat come from Somalia.

Morocco practices the Maliki school of jurisprudence, as did the Maldives until 1700. Somalis are Shafi'i.

Factz said:

The Maldive became Muslim by their ruler and their ruler was called Sultan Mohammed Al Adil and he changed his name to Islam after he was converted by Aw Barkhaadle. What you have shown has been proven Richard Bulliet as a fairytale story that Ibn Battuta recorded but he didn't confirm it to be true. He instead said that the islands were actaully indeed converted by a Somali saint. Read the authentic source from below which was written by Ibn Battuta.

"Ibn Battuta states the Madliveian king was converted by Abu Al Barakat Al Berber ("blessed father of Somalia"). The Shaykh reportedly converted the islands into Islam by convincing the local King, Sultan Mohammed Al Adil, after having subdued Raana Maari a demon coming from the sea."

Reference: Ibn Batuta, Travels in Asia and Africa 1325-1354, tr. and ed. H. A. R. Gibb (London: Broadway House, 1929)

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Did this Somali saint of yours practice Maliki or Shafici? Was he a western Arab from Morocco?
I gave you two full translations of Ibn Batuta above, neither of which says anything about Somalia, and does identify Adi'l Barakat as a western Arab, a Berber from Morocco.

1929?

So when exactly did our IQ drop all the way to 68?

@Factz

Thank you bro. Keep spitting the facts!

damm whats wrong with this @Grant what a complete idiot
dude if youre reading this youre a n idiot

well done @Factz a great kharbashing of this old baloney looser