Puntland & Ethiopia’s Aviation Minister’s Meet‼️

[Karlo]

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/kC8x85XjiuGvGmLL/?mibextid=WC7FNe

Puntland’s taking the steps to fully become independent from Mogadishu

Puntland & Ethiopia’s Aviation Minister’s & also Top officials from Ethiopian Airlines talked about strengthening cooperation & direct flights to Puntland.

Seems like this due to the New Constitution & puntland declaring Independent from the FGS

Is puntland correct in this regard ?

They did claim independent, that also means being independent of Airlines contracted through Mogadishu.
“My assumptions”

 

[Lightshow]

Somalis are hopeless may Allah help us.

 

[Aiman12]

i understand being angry at fgs and declaring independence but going to ethiopia is too far

 

[El Nino]

We shall see what happens, this year and the next one will be interesting.

 

[Abdisamad]

Ethiopia...

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[Bazed]

Running off to Ethiopia. A time old tradition for Somali politicians. Shits beyond embarrassing.

 

[Pastoralist]

Those of you calling PL out.

1. Ethiopia is the only nation bordering PL so it’s the only one they can trade with. If PL had recognition its trade would go far and wide, as far as Japan.

2. Hassan sheikh made Ethiopia an enemy, allow me to explain. Ethiopia has one enemy, which is Egypt. HSM immediately began hostilities with them by getting closer to Egypt in 2022 who didn’t help us with anything. While states and regions like PL, hiiran, gedo, and SWS are cordial with them.

they have several trade deals which benefit our people. Currently our trade deal with them for fish was stopped by Hassan sheikh, which has had negative effects for xamar population.
exhibit A

https://x.com/mp_dalmar/status/1776413786355962163?s=46

 

[Bazed]

Those of you calling PL out.

1. Ethiopia is the only nation bordering PL so it’s the only one they can trade with. If PL had recognition its trade would go far and wide, as far as Japan.

2. Hassan sheikh made Ethiopia an enemy, allow me to explain. Ethiopia has one enemy, which is Egypt. HSM immediately began hostilities with them by getting closer to Egypt in 2022 who didn’t help us with anything. While states and regions like PL, hiiran, gedo, and SWS are cordial with them.

they have several trade deals which benefit our people. Currently our trade deal with them for fish was stopped by Hassan sheikh, which has had negative effects for xamar population.
exhibit A

https://x.com/mp_dalmar/status/1776413786355962163?s=46

Ethiopia has always been the enemy. They took land that was rightfully ours by sucking up to Britain. They invaded in 2006 and destroyed any attempt to reach some form of normalcy made by the ICU. They helped establish the faulty system of 4.5 which stripped power from the people and facilitated the rise of corrupt politicians.

We still have undisclosed boarders with them to this day. The simple fact is Somalis running to Addis is nothing short of fucking brain dead. The Ethiopians are not some kind neighbors, they have far more to gain from the state If it's in turmoil then if it was working towards a collective goal.

 

[Pastoralist]

Ethiopia has always been the enemy. They took land that was rightfully ours by sucking up to Britain. They invaded in 2006 and destroyed any attempt to reach some form of normalcy made by the ICU. They helped establish the faulty system of 4.5 which stripped power from the people and facilitated the rise of corrupt politicians.

We still have undisclosed boarders with them to this day. The simple fact is Somalis running to Addis is nothing short of fucking brain dead. The Ethiopians are not some kind neighbors, they have far more to gain from the state If it's in turmoil then if it was working towards a collective goal.

current timeline, they want a Somalia which works with them, they’ll treat you how you treat them. Laftagareen is genuinely a good leader for SWS, if they wanted the worst for Somalia they would have listened to HSM and gotten rid of him the election that passed.

they have also backed gedo for the longest time against former AS affiliated madoobe and have enjoyed peace because of them.

they got the ultimate slap in the face by FGS doing a 360 on relations with them by getting closer to Egypt, which FGS distanced both alongside UAE before Hassan took office . Watch Deni offer Egypt a base right now and see how quickly they’ll turn on PL.

If someone antagonizes them, yes they can be a sore spot.

But This kumbaya nonsense isn’t the situation on the ground, K5, SWS, and PL all enjoy the benefits of having trade relations with Ethiopia

 

[Midwestern]

 

[Bazed]

current timeline, they want a Somalia which works with them, they’ll treat you how you treat them. Laftagareen is genuinely a good leader for SWS, if they wanted the worst they would have listened to HSM and gotten ridden of him the election that passed.

they got the ultimate slap in the face by FGS doing a 360 on relations with them by getting closer to Egypt, which FGS distanced both alongside UAE . Watch Deni offer Egypt a base right now and see how quickly they’ll turn on PL.

If someone antagonizes them, yes they can be a sore spot. You can only blame ethiopia for our own shortcoming.

This kumbaya nonsense isn’t the situation on the ground, K5, SWS, and PL all enjoy the benefits having trade relations with Ethiopia brings.

What suggest they want a Somalia that works with them? Is it the whole consulting a rough state for land that isn't for sale?

This change in relation came about when Ethiopia made deals that outright disregarded the territorial integrity of its neighbor. HSM isn't Isaias or SiSi, he didn't have the nerve to antagonize Ethiopia till they stepped over a line he couldn't ignore. Even after he acted to sour relations it was the bare minimum, he didn't even throw the Ethiopian ambassador out till now. The Ethiopians aren't our friends, and just because we're currently having a internal issue doesn't mean we rewrite history.

 

[Pastoralist]

This change in relation came about when Ethiopia made deals that outright disregarded the territorial integrity of its neighbor.

this is the more recent tiff, our relations started going bad in 2022, the change in relation occurred when deals made between Ethiopia and Somalia got scrapped which Ethiopia was pissed about. Mind you these deals were not overstepping our sovereignty, they were made with the previous FGS. Added to that, getting closer to sisi in 2022, which was a red line for Ethiopia.

This is the Ethiopian side of things

This change in relation came about when Ethiopia made deals that outright disregarded the territorial integrity of its neighbor. HSM isn't Isaias or SiSi, he didn't have the nerve to antagonize Ethiopia till they stepped over a line he couldn't ignore. Even after he acted to sour relations it was the bare minimum, he didn't even throw the Ethiopian ambassador out till now. The Ethiopians aren't our friends, and just because we're currently having a internal issue doesn't mean we rewrite history.

they are also not our allies, if that makes sense, Eritrea is our true ride or die. While Ethiopia will support whatever we do if we share their enemies. We can’t be weak around them either, if so, they’ll see it as an opportunity to reach their goal of getting a port. UAE is antagonizing them against us by paying for 600million in port expenses. If it wasn’t for that, and also us being affiliated with Egypt, there’d be no talk of war and it’d be Eritrea getting attacked.

 

[RiceMuncher]

Ethiopia has always been the enemy. They took land that was rightfully ours by sucking up to Britain. They invaded in 2006 and destroyed any attempt to reach some form of normalcy made by the ICU. They helped establish the faulty system of 4.5 which stripped power from the people and facilitated the rise of corrupt politicians.

We still have undisclosed boarders with them to this day. The simple fact is Somalis running to Addis is nothing short of fucking brain dead. The Ethiopians are not some kind neighbors, they have far more to gain from the state If it's in turmoil then if it was working towards a collective goal.

This whole thing reminds me of the thread where the top xabash general was calaacalin "Pls gib sea, we are dying for your country" as they couldn't move forward with annexing Somalilands.

Somalis are tribes, and we shall secure contracts with each tribe like the Europeans.

I laughed and said this time it's different. I was banking on the FM states to read the room in case they clashed with the FG, but we as always are driven by emotions. It's the last days of Ramadan, let us make duas for our nation and ppl.

 

[Bazed]

this is the more recent tiff, our relations started going bad in 2022, the change in relation occurred when deals made between Ethiopia and Somalia got scrapped which Ethiopia was pissed about. Mind you these deals were not overstepping our sovereignty, they were made with the previous FGS. Added to that, getting closer to sisi in 2022, which was a red line for Ethiopia.

This is the Ethiopian side of things



they are also not our allies, if that makes sense, Eritrea is our true ride or die. While Ethiopia will support whatever we do if we share their enemies. We can’t be weak around them either, if so, they’ll see it as an opportunity to reach their goal of getting a port. UAE is antagonizing them against us by paying for 600million in port expenses. If it wasn’t for that, and also us being affiliated with Egypt, there’d be no talk of war and it’d be Eritrea getting attacked.

As Somalis we need to realize we've only got ourselves. No one else has our best interests in heart and the sooner we start talking to each other rather than acting like moody teens the better.

PL has all right to cut contact with a government it feels doesn't have its best interests in mind. However they along with other states must realize that foreign forces are not their buddies. Ethiopia, Kenya, UAE, UK and USA are in it for something.