Do you guys believe in Sixir?

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  1. MadNomad

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  2. Farah Uchiha

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    I have seen hawiyes in universities.
    Sixir is definitely real
     
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  3. Timo jileec

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    Personally i dont, only hear old heads talk about sixir. Do they talk about it back home?
     
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  5. Axmed Xaji

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    Lol then how are you Muslim? It's not optional. There's no part in Islam where you can choose not to believe in sixir, jinns etc.
     
  6. MadNomad

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    I'm an atheist, so jinns and magic is just mythology to me.
     
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  7. Foreman

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    I've spilled my coffee god dammit!
     
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  8. Axmed Xaji

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    Sixir is when people work with jinn (or think they are) to harm other people. Traditionally they read a spell into some sort of potion and the person has to consume that potion to become possessed. The potion that contains the sixir is actually toxic (I mean chemically toxic) and will induce a physiological response from the poisoned person's body.

    If the poisoned person has never heard of sixir and wasn't afraid of being sixired, he'll just see a doctor and clean out his body of the toxins. But if you actually believe it (or you think you owe someone something), your brain will translate your body's physiological reaction to mean that someone else is doing stuff to you. For example, if the toxins cause you severe stomach ache, and you were already susceptible to the idea of sixir, your brain will translate that to mean someone is kicking you in the stomach. Typically there is a storyline when someone wants to cast demons or jinn to attack you; i.e. you didn't marry them or you owe them money or something else.

    There is a medical explanation for what happens. It's called the nocebo effect: things that you think can hurt you will hurt you. The brain will heighten minor physiological responses to conform with your fears. There's also the placebo effect, which is in effect the opposite: things that you think will help will help you. In the case of the placebo effect your brain heightens benign physiological responses to fit with your fantasy.

    The best way to deal with Sixir is to think logically about reality. For example, Jinn, according to the Quran, are made of fire. You should understand that in physics, there is no type of fire that is not visible and extremely hot. In fact, "fire" is characterized by that reddish-orange flame and extreme heat. For something "made of fire" to be invisible, it can't be made of fire. There is no other type of fire, period. Also, understand that fire is visible when fuel (i.e. wood or gas) molecules heat up, break their chemical bonds and make new products, releasing energy in the form of light.

    One last thing. Since jinn are apparently "made" of fire, and fire is when fuels heat up and combine with oxygen, wouldn't dumps burn all the time, since that's where jinn apparently live? If there are jinns in someone who is possessed, wouldn't the fire they're "made of" go out?
     
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    I find this highly interesting, are you a Muslim yourself? It seems that you've essentially disproven, academically that is, any idea that these things can be taken to be literally true.
     
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  10. government

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    Allah created Adam from clay that doesn't mean we are from clay same thing goes with jiin also nacebo effect can't work if you don't believe you're sixiired yet there are many people that think they are normal and go crazy when they hear all ruqia Al sharciaa
     
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    Am I a Muslim myself? Well, I am grounded in reality and I don't believe things without evidence, so, no I guess.
     
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  12. Axmed Xaji

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    First of all, of course we're made clay according to the Quran. Does it say we're made of atoms and molecules? Second, how does the same go for Jinn? It says clearly Jinn are made of fire and angels are made of light, respectively. The person that makes a distinction between fire and light obviously doesn't know that fire IS light with frequency range of red to orange (~700nm-600nm if you want to be technical).
     
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  13. Axmed Xaji

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    You think it would work if people who are "possessed" were simply to drink lots of fluid and get some rest, and sent to therapy instead of bearded people with bad breath reciting nonsense to them? I think that would help society move forward.
     
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    I absolutely agree, but I feel the only way to do this is via education. Even this is under threat at the moment where bearded men are essentially deciding what is scientifically accurate, according to the Quran, and what isn't. Simply put, what conforms with it. Even if they teach it, they'll give them a biased outlook on these things.
     
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  15. government

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    If you read the Quran you would've known that the verse before it says He created man from clay like [that of] pottery.
     
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