Would you allow your daughter/son marry other race?

will you allow ur kid marry other race

  • A) yes aslong that person is muslim

    Votes: 18 34.6%

  • B) No fucking way

    Votes: 34 65.4%
  • Total voters
    52
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Jubba_Man

Adolf-Hitler said:
I'll do my best to make sure they marry a faarax and same for the boys inshallah. I am not breaking my back and sacrificing so much only for them to think they are grown people and they can make their own decisions. Some kids can be qashin tho. Alot of kids do exactly the opposite of what their parents want, those types ka ducaysta.
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A good way to keep them in line is to to write them out of your will if they marry a non-Somali. This is how the Jews do it and keep all of that wealth in their family/community. Imagine building all of that wealth only to have a Jennifer spend it on Gucci handbags or Ryan blowing it all on lines of coke.

That disowning shit doesn't work with these kids because we are way more individualist in the west than most other communities, so these parents have no real leverage over what their kids will end up doing.
 
dhegdheer

dhegdheer

Jubba_Man said:
A good way to keep them in line is to to write them out of your will if they marry a non-Somali. This is how the Jews do it and keep all of that wealth in their family/community. Imagine building all of that wealth only to have a Jennifer spend it on Gucci handbags or Ryan blowing it all on lines of coke.

That disowning shit doesn't work with these kids because we are way more individualist in the west than most other communities, so these parents have no real leverage over what their kids will end up doing.
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What is there left to write in the will tho :kendrickcry::mjcry::meleshame:
 
Apollo

Apollo

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You guys live in 99.9% non-Somali societies. Expecting your kids to marry Somalis is kinda retarded. The 2nd gen Western Somalis may retain low intermarriage rates, but I doubt the 3rd or 4th generations will. Not feasible given the circumstances.
 
Gambar

Gambar

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Jubba_Man said:
A good way to keep them in line is to to write them out of your will if they marry a non-Somali. This is how the Jews do it and keep all of that wealth in their family/community. Imagine building all of that wealth only to have a Jennifer spend it on Gucci handbags or Ryan blowing it all on lines of coke.

That disowning shit doesn't work with these kids because we are way more individualist in the west than most other communities, so these parents have no real leverage over what their kids will end up doing.
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Most Somalis don't have the wealth to write a will but this is a good idea. I would definitely do this.
 
Apollo

Apollo

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dhegdheer said:
No I'm hoping to become rich inshallah :damn: I was mainly talking about the state of somalis today, I don't think there is much left to write in a will :jcoleno: that includes my own parents
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Houses and land in Somalia? LOL.

Even welfare queens often own property in Somalia.
 
dhegdheer

dhegdheer

Amun said:
Houses and land in Somalia? LOL.

Even welfare queens often own property in Somalia.
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Yeah my fam have some houses and land there but what am I gonna do with a couple of houses and lands in somalia dee :meleshame:
I'm not planning to live there plus I have an older brother and other sibs :meleshame:
Inheritance laws are shit when it comes to girls :meleshame:

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Gambar

Gambar

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Amun said:
Houses and land in Somalia? LOL.

Even welfare queens often own property in Somalia.
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That they will never go back to. I know a family who's been saying they will move back since 1995.

As long as my kids (inshallah) marry a Somali, ethnic or otherwise, I don't care.
 
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Jubba_Man

dhegdheer said:
No I'm hoping to become rich inshallah :damn: I was mainly talking about the state of somalis today, I don't think there is much left to write in a will :jcoleno: that includes my own parents
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This is what I meant. Our parents generally have almost no leverage over us because of their lack of wealth. In fact, a lot of our problems and dysfunction in the west can be pinned on our lack of established wealth along with a much less structured community. Other communities who have a similar lack in wealth make up for it with a much stronger collective identity and a harmonious community.


Not all of us though. Sometimes the easiest path to wealth for a young woman is to marry a slightly older and established man. :mjohreally:
 
Ferrari

Ferrari

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Jubba_Man said:
A good way to keep them in line is to to write them out of your will if they marry a non-Somali. This is how the Jews do it and keep all of that wealth in their family/community. Imagine building all of that wealth only to have a Jennifer spend it on Gucci handbags or Ryan blowing it all on lines of coke.

That disowning shit doesn't work with these kids because we are way more individualist in the west than most other communities, so these parents have no real leverage over what their kids will end up doing.
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That would only work if you have wealth but let's face it, most somali families do not. As long as you are not unreasonable as a parent, they should obey you when you say no. That's the thing about kids, you have them and raise them all the while you have no idea how they'll turn out.
 
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Jubba_Man

Adolf-Hitler said:
That would only work if you have wealth but let's face it, most somali families do not. As long as you are not unreasonable as a parent, they should obey you when you say no. That's the thing about kids, you have them and raise them all the while you have no idea how they'll turn out.
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That is now because most were refugees who came with nothing. I'm talking about this upcoming generation. I am sure they will have far more wealth to pass on their kids than their parents passed on to them. With wealth comes leverage and influence.
 
Ferrari

Ferrari

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Jubba_Man said:
That is now because most were refugees who came with nothing. I'm talking about this upcoming generation. I am sure they will have far more wealth to pass on their kids than their parents passed on to them. With wealth comes leverage and influence.
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True. But being a muslim, God already decided who gets your wealth after you pass and how much they get to the decimal point. That's why there is no such thing as will in Islam. I am sure there are lot more non religious somalis tho, so your idea would probably work on most of them.
 
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Jubba_Man

Adolf-Hitler said:
True. But being a muslim, God already decided who gets your wealth after you pass and how much they get to the decimal point. That's why there is no such thing as will in Islam. I am sure there are lot more non religious somalis tho, so your idea would probably work on most of them.
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If you want to bring the deen into this, what is the ruling regarding children marrying others that you don't approve of? They can't use the deen as a weapon. I'm talking more about secular kids who are rebelling against their parents and couldn't careless about the deen. This is a good way to keep them in line though I can understand why many by that point wouldn't care and would just write them out anyways.
 
Ferrari

Ferrari

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Jubba_Man said:
If you want to bring the deen into this, what is the ruling regarding children marrying others that you don't approve of? They can't use the deen as a weapon. I'm talking more about secular kids who are rebelling against their parents and couldn't careless about the deen. This is a good way to keep them in line though I can understand why many by that point wouldn't care and would just write them out anyways.
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For girls, the diin says if the father doesn't say yes, that marriage is not valid in the eyes of God and any kids born out of it are considered to be born out of wedlock. The things is, a lot of somali fathers are very lenient and they come around eventually. Deen should be important, and as a parent you can refuse your kids to marry out for good reasons and it wouldn't be against the religion. But the secular parents are probably more liberal and wouldn't mind their kids marrying out tho. Not sure you could find a lot of illiberal secular people.
 
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bluebird

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yes, the expectations should be the same. I don't like that people are too lenient with new muslims they should be held to the same standard.
 
Netero

Netero

Kim Jong Fun
Interracial marriages are more difficult because you can't collect information about the potential spouse and you can't drag their name through the mud if they hurt your child. It also greatly increases the risk that your grandchildren will not be Somali in culture and race. In addition, some other Muslim ethnicities have toxic cultural practices that could wind me up with a disfigured or dead daughter.
 
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